Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft

["Tiziano Müller" <dev-zero@gentoo.org>]

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Am Donnerstag, den 09.04.2009, 13:13 -0400 schrieb Richard Freeman:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > 
> > Most packages that have tests have working tests. For those that don't,
> > the tests have to be restricted. All this proposal does is ensures that
> > that happens in a progressive, incremental and safe way.
> > 
> 
> I agree with this point - failing tests are more the exception than the 
> rule.
> 
> Looking at my system the only packages I'm skipping tests for are:
> openldap|parted|orbit|samba|kpilot|nautilus|libksieve|karm|libbonoboui|gnome-vfs|pkgconfig|pam|coreutils|pan|mono|glibc|gettext|curl
No need to skip samba, there are no tests anymore.

> 
> Some of those might be fixed now.
> 
> > If packages are failing tests, either it's a legitimate reason, in
> > which case it needs to be fixed, or it's not, in which case it needs to
> > be restricted. The problem is, currently there's no way for users to
> > know which is which. With an EAPI mandated src_test, users will know
> > that any failure that gets to them is legitimate.
> 
> Hence my having the list posted above (which is just the ones I use that 
>   I've found problems with).
> 
> I also would like to say that the "slow-test" compromise sounds like a 
> good idea.
> 
> A fast-running automated test routine is a good sanity check to show 
> that nothing went wrong during the build.  Maybe the user has some odd 
> version of a dependency that no developer checked with the new package. 
>   Arch testers can't test every combination of dependencies, 
> configurations, use-flags, etc.
> 
> I would think that this might even cut down on user-reported issues. 
> Better to find out that a package has a problem BEFORE it is actually 
> installed.
> 
> If a user is going to spend 10 minutes building a bunch of packages 
> spending another 30-60 seconds on some basic tests doesn't sound 
> unreasonable.  We could also make it easy for users to disable testing 
> entirely if they want to live dangerously.
> 

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