[gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for April

[gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for April

[Mike Frysinger]

This is your one-day friendly reminder !  The monthly Gentoo Council
meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net.  See the
channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC).

If you're supposed to show up, please show up.  If you're not supposed
to show up, then show up anyways and watch your Council monkeys dance
for you.

For more info on the Gentoo Council, feel free to browse our homepage:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/
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Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for April

[Donnie Berkholz]

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On 03:03 Wed 09 Apr     , Mike Frysinger wrote:
> This is your one-day friendly reminder !  The monthly Gentoo Council
> meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net.  See the
> channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC).
> 
> If you're supposed to show up, please show up.  If you're not supposed
> to show up, then show up anyways and watch your Council monkeys dance
> for you.
> 
> For more info on the Gentoo Council, feel free to browse our homepage:
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/

Here's the proposed agenda. Added CC for the council list.

Thanks,
Donnie

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Requested attendees
===================

GLEP 46: vanquirius, ciaranm, dev-zero
PMS: ciaranm, halcy0n

Roll call
=========

(here, proxy [by whom] or slacker?)

amne        
betelgeuse  
dberkholz   
flameeyes   
lu_zero	    
vapier      
jokey       

Updates to last month's topics
==============================

	http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20080313-summary.txt

	Document of being an active developer
	-------------------------------------
	Last month:
		No updates
	Updates:

	Slacker arches
	--------------
	3 months ago:
		vapier will work on rich0's suggestion and repost it for 
		discussion on -dev ML
	Last month:
		vapier said he was going to work on it this weekend.
	Updates:

	GLEP 46: Allow upstream tags in metadata.xml
	--------------------------------------------
	http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0046.html

	2 months ago:
		Caveat on approval about allowed protocols
	Updates:
		Restriction to http/https has been dropped as pointed out by 
		council members (amne and Flameeyes if I'm right).  The point 
		for restricting the URLs to the mentioned protocols was that 
		they shouldn't link to automatically updated ressources.  This 
		has been replaced by an explicit specification and a 
		recommendation that http/http should be favoured over 
		ftp/svn/gopher/etc to make the implementation for automated 
		update discovery tools easier (they should of course ignore URLs 
		they can't handle).

		Ready for confirmation, which should be mainly a formality.

New topics
==========

	Minimal activity for ebuild devs
	--------------------------------
	Current is 1 commit every 60 days. Should it be higher?

	Initial comments on PMS
	-----------------------
	http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/pms.git

	Are there any major changes needed, or just tuning details?

[gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for April

[Mike Frysinger]

This is your one-day friendly reminder !  The monthly Gentoo Council
meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net.  See the
channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC).

If you're supposed to show up, please show up.  If you're not supposed
to show up, then show up anyways and watch your Council monkeys dance
for you.

For more info on the Gentoo Council, feel free to browse our homepage:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for April

[Rémi Cardona]

Mike Frysinger a écrit :
> This is your one-day friendly reminder !  The monthly Gentoo Council
> meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net.  See the
> channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC).

I'd like for the Council to discuss a migration plan from old 
default-linux/ profiles to the new directory hierarchy.

Adding arch-wide package.masks (we had to for Gnome 2.24 IIRC) was a 
major pain for those who had to do it.

I don't particularly wish for this to happen Real Soon, but drafting a 
plan sounds like a good first step.

Thanks

Rémi

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for April

[Tobias Scherbaum]

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Mike Frysinger wrote:
> This is your one-day friendly reminder !  The monthly Gentoo Council
> meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net.  See the
> channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC).
> 
> If you're supposed to show up, please show up.  If you're not supposed
> to show up, then show up anyways and watch your Council monkeys dance
> for you.
> 
> For more info on the Gentoo Council, feel free to browse our homepage:
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/
> 

I'd like to vote on whether to approve GLEP 54.

As for EAPI=3 the only thing I've got a question on for now is
doexample. I'm not sure if we really need an additional doexample as
from my understanding examples are in most if not all cases docs which
then could be installed using dodoc.

  Tobias

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[gentoo-dev] Re: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for April

[Duncan]

Tobias Scherbaum <dertobi123@gentoo.org> posted
1239208319.6160.8.camel@homer.ob.libexec.de, excerpted below, on  Wed, 08
Apr 2009 18:31:59 +0200:

> I'd like to vote on whether to approve GLEP 54.

AFAIK after reading council logs, there were three things holding up GLEP 
54 as of the last meeting:

1) It seems easiest to implement if 55 (or alternative) is implemented in 
parallel.  Thus, for practical reasons, resolution on 54 is to some 
degree tied to 55.  Going ahead with 54 on its own is possible, but 
knowing where 55 is headed will make it easier.

2) Comparative performance tests/benchmarks.  There was a bit of delay 
getting test code into portage, but it's there now.  Hopefully those 
assigned to do the tests have done so and can report their results.

3) Most agree now that GLEP 54 on its own is only a first step and 
doesn't do a whole lot on its own.  Whether it's worth the trouble just 
for itself is debatable.  There was some council discussion asking that 
the comparison be expanded to include at least some idea of what the next 
steps should be and where it's all headed, with a bit of comparison on 
how the various proposed implementations would get there.  IOW, several 
folks on the council wanted at least some idea of the big picture, where 
it's all headed, before they felt comfortable voting on GLEP 54.

Issue #2 (performance questions) has had progress and hopefully has a 
report waiting for this council meeting.  Issue #1 (GLEP 55 tie-in) may 
well resolve itself over time as they seem to have been treated in 
parallel to a large degree.  I'm not sure of the status on Issue #3 (big-
picture map-out).  Hopefully there has been some progress there as well.

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Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for April

[Donnie Berkholz]

Just wanted to let you know the agenda will be coming pretty late
because I've been at a conference that I'm traveling back from today.
I should be home in ~12 hours to do it.

If someone else would like to pull together the things from the
earlier thread and post a draft agenda, that would be extremely
helpful.

Thanks,
Donnie

On 08 Apr 2009 03:00:19, Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> wrote:
> This is your one-day friendly reminder !  The monthly Gentoo Council
> meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net.  See the
> channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC).
>
> If you're supposed to show up, please show up.  If you're not supposed
> to show up, then show up anyways and watch your Council monkeys dance
> for you.
>
> For more info on the Gentoo Council, feel free to browse our homepage:
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/
>
>

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for April

[Brian Harring]

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On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 06:31:59PM +0200, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
> As for EAPI=3 the only thing I've got a question on for now is

Councils opinion on bug 264130 
(http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=264130) would be appreciated- 
seems to have stalled out although the benefits are well documented.

Thanks,
~harring

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Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for April

[Donnie Berkholz]

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On 16:36 Wed 08 Apr     , Rémi Cardona wrote:
> Mike Frysinger a écrit :
>> This is your one-day friendly reminder !  The monthly Gentoo Council
>> meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net.  See the
>> channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC).
>
> I'd like for the Council to discuss a migration plan from old  
> default-linux/ profiles to the new directory hierarchy.
>
> Adding arch-wide package.masks (we had to for Gnome 2.24 IIRC) was a  
> major pain for those who had to do it.
>
> I don't particularly wish for this to happen Real Soon, but drafting a  
> plan sounds like a good first step.

OK, I'm looking forward to reading your draft. =)

-- 
Thanks,
Donnie

Donnie Berkholz
Developer, Gentoo Linux
Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com

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Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for April

[Rémi Cardona]

Le 09/04/2009 20:38, Donnie Berkholz a écrit :
>> I don't particularly wish for this to happen Real Soon, but drafting a
>> plan sounds like a good first step.
>
> OK, I'm looking forward to reading your draft. =)
>

1) migrate
2) party

I don't really see what else should be in between steps 1 and 2.

I definitely can give out a hand with #2 though.

Rémi