From: "Peter Böhm" <peter.bo@web.de>
To: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>,
"Roy Bamford" <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org>,
gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: banning "AI"-backed (LLM/GPT/whatever) contributions to Gentoo
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 19:40:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <12387499.O9o76ZdvQC@sun> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ET5BFMER.LXZDD34L.LKNUCE2U@W3F7DJH6.YPI22SPL.VIFFEODS>
Am Dienstag, 27. Februar 2024, 18:50:15 CET schrieb Roy Bamford:
> On 2024.02.27 14:45, Michał Górny wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > Gentoo has always stood out as something different, something that
> > worked for people for whom mainstream distros were lacking. I think
> > adding "made by real people" to the list of our advantages would be
> > a good thing — but we need to have policies in place, to make sure
> > shit
> > doesn't flow in.
> >
> > Compare with the shitstorm at:
> > https://github.com/pkgxdev/pantry/issues/5358
>
> Michał,
>
> An excellent piece of prose setting out the rationale.
> I fully support it.
I would like to add the following:
Last year we had a chatbot in our Gentoo forum that posted 76 posts on
2024-12-19. An inexperienced moderator (me) then asked his colleagues on the
basis of which forum rules we can ban this chatbot:
"Do we have a rule somewhere that an AI and a chatbot are not allowed to log
in? I have read our Guideĺines ( https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-525.html ) and found no such prohibition. On what basis could we even block
a chatbot ?"
The answer from two experienced colleagues was that this is already covered by
our forum rules, because chatbots usually cannot (yet) fulfill the requirements
of a forum post and therefore violate our Guideĺines.
To be honest, I asked myself at the time what would happen if we had a clearly
recognizable AI as a user that made (reasonably) sensible posts. We would then
have no chance of banning this AI user without an explicit prohibition. I
would be much more comfortable if we clearly communicated that we do not
accept an AI as a user.
Yes, I would also be very happy to see this proposal implemented.
--
Best regards,
Peter (aka pietinger)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-02-27 18:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-27 14:45 [gentoo-dev] RFC: banning "AI"-backed (LLM/GPT/whatever) contributions to Gentoo Michał Górny
2024-02-27 15:10 ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-02-27 15:21 ` Kenton Groombridge
2024-02-27 15:31 ` Alex Boag-Munroe
2024-02-27 16:11 ` Marek Szuba
2024-02-27 16:29 ` Sam James
2024-02-27 16:48 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2024-02-27 17:02 ` Ionen Wolkens
2024-02-27 17:41 ` Rich Freeman
2024-02-27 18:07 ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-02-27 18:27 ` Kenton Groombridge
2024-02-27 17:46 ` Matthias Maier
2024-02-27 17:50 ` Roy Bamford
2024-02-27 18:40 ` Peter Böhm [this message]
2024-02-27 18:04 ` Sam James
2024-03-09 14:57 ` Michał Górny
2024-02-27 19:17 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-02-28 3:05 ` Oskari Pirhonen
2024-02-28 3:12 ` Michał Górny
2024-02-28 10:08 ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-02-28 11:06 ` Matt Jolly
2024-02-28 20:20 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-03-01 7:06 ` Sam James
2024-03-09 15:00 ` Michał Górny
2024-02-28 13:09 ` Michał Górny
2024-02-28 10:34 ` David Seifert
2024-02-28 18:50 ` Arthur Zamarin
2024-02-28 19:26 ` Rich Freeman
2024-03-01 6:33 ` Zoltan Puskas
2024-03-05 6:12 ` Robin H. Johnson
2024-03-06 6:53 ` Oskari Pirhonen
2024-03-08 3:59 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2024-03-09 15:04 ` Michał Górny
2024-03-09 21:13 ` Duncan
2024-03-10 1:53 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-03-06 13:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " martin-kokos
2024-03-08 7:09 ` Fco. Javier Felix Belmonte
2024-03-21 15:25 ` Michał Górny
2024-04-15 19:50 ` Jérôme Carretero
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