[gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

[gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

[Aaron Lebahn]

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Hello, I would like to apply as a student in the Google Summer of Code
program. I would like to work on creating a simple method to install Gentoo
on an EeePC. This will involve creating scripts and code that will
preconfigure the Gentoo instalation to be optimized for the EeePC, and to
contain all of the appropriate modules and configurations to enable all
hardware on the EeePC.
I own an EeePC 900 with which I wil be abe to test. I am uncertain if this
or something similar has been done before, or if this is an appropriate
Google SOC project. Please give feedback or questions, thankyou.

-- 
Aaron Lebahn.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

[Robin H. Johnson]

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On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:42:28AM -0600, Aaron Lebahn wrote:
> Hello, I would like to apply as a student in the Google Summer of Code
> program. I would like to work on creating a simple method to install Gentoo
> on an EeePC. This will involve creating scripts and code that will
> preconfigure the Gentoo instalation to be optimized for the EeePC, and to
> contain all of the appropriate modules and configurations to enable all
> hardware on the EeePC.
In a similar strain, I'd suggest looking at the stage-builder SoC
proposal by solar. The EeePC would probably be just throwing a tarball
of configuration files over the top of it.

-- 
Robin Hugh Johnson
Gentoo Linux Developer & Infra Guy
E-Mail     : robbat2@gentoo.org
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

[Caleb Cushing]

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Aaron Lebahn <cplusplus328@gmail.com> wrote:
> an EeePC. This will involve creating scripts and code that will preconfigure
> the Gentoo instalation to be optimized for the EeePC, and to contain all of
> the appropriate modules and configurations to enable all hardware on the
> EeePC.
> I own an EeePC 900 with which I wil be abe to test. I am uncertain if this
> or something similar has been done before, or if this is an appropriate
> Google SOC project. Please give feedback or questions, thankyou.

wouldn't one problem with this be that different EeePC's have
different hardware? I believe, that your's has an atom processor while
older models have a celeron.

being that I'm not a gentoo dev, and although I think the project is
worthwhile, I personally don't see that it's a gsoc worthwhile, esp
since gentoo doesn't really do it for anything else. tbh, would this
take more than a week to do? I'm not overtly familliar with the EeePC
but it doesn't seem that unless you were highly un-gentoo-ing it that
this would be a long process, given that I believe the architecture is
all x86.. (maybe x86_64?)

-- 
Caleb Cushing

http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

[Robin H. Johnson]

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On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 02:57:56PM -0600, Aaron Lebahn wrote:
> Could you please provide a link to a location where I may find this stage
> builder proposition?
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/2009_Summer_Of_Code_Ideas#Create_a_Web-based_Gentoo_image_builder

-- 
Robin Hugh Johnson
Gentoo Linux Developer & Infra Guy
E-Mail     : robbat2@gentoo.org
GnuPG FP   : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED  F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

[Aaron Lebahn]

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On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Caleb Cushing <xenoterracide@gmail.com>wrote:

 wouldn't one problem with this be that different EeePC's have
> different hardware? I believe, that your's has an atom processor while
> older models have a celeron.
>

This problem would add complexity which I would tackle. I would like to
either detect which model the user has or ask the user. The larger issue
would be testing on different models. And also, you are incorrect, the 900
has a celeron and the 901 has an Atom.


>
> being that I'm not a gentoo dev, and although I think the project is
> worthwhile, I personally don't see that it's a gsoc worthwhile, esp
> since gentoo doesn't really do it for anything else. tbh, would this
> take more than a week to do?


I do think it would take more than a week, but I agree it would not likely
take three months. Any suggestions regarding how this could be expanded to
take more time?


> I'm not overtly familliar with the EeePC
> but it doesn't seem that unless you were highly un-gentoo-ing it that
> this would be a long process, given that I believe the architecture is
> all x86.. (maybe x86_64?)
>

Yes, the architecture is x86.

-- 
Aaron Lebahn

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-soc] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

[Aaron Lebahn]

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On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Andrey Falko <afalko@gmail.com> wrote:


> Would it be possible to integrate these scripts into Gentoo current
> graphical installer, as well as included on one of the minimal install
> CDs?
>
>
Yes, That would be a good idea. I could add to the graphical install instead
of trying to make a completely separate cd. I supose that would even be
preferred.

-- 
Aaron Lebahn

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

[Robin H. Johnson]

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On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 03:22:47PM -0600, Aaron Lebahn wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Robin H. Johnson <robbat2@gentoo.org>wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 02:57:56PM -0600, Aaron Lebahn wrote:
> > > Could you please provide a link to a location where I may find this stage
> > > builder proposition?
> > http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/2009_Summer_Of_Code_Ideas#Create_a_Web-based_Gentoo_image_builder
> The difference would be that that proposition is web-based. I propose either
> a locally built or pre-built installer.
Regardless of how it's delivered, the end product is the same.
+ A base stage
+ a set of packages
+ EeePC specific configuration

There's nothing specific to the EeePC in the installer itself (unless
you count some config that does the same as above).

-- 
Robin Hugh Johnson
Gentoo Linux Developer & Infra Guy
E-Mail     : robbat2@gentoo.org
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-soc] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

[Josh Saddler]

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Aaron Lebahn wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Andrey Falko <afalko@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> Would it be possible to integrate these scripts into Gentoo current
>> graphical installer, as well as included on one of the minimal install
>> CDs?
>>
>>
> Yes, That would be a good idea. I could add to the graphical install instead
> of trying to make a completely separate cd. I supose that would even be
> preferred.

The installer was declared deprecated and unsupported in future
releases. It will no longer be used. Here's the original announcement
from back in January:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.installer/607


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

[Aaron Lebahn]

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On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Robin H. Johnson <robbat2@gentoo.org>wrote:

>  In a similar strain, I'd suggest looking at the stage-builder SoC
> proposal by solar. The EeePC would probably be just throwing a tarball
> of configuration files over the top of it.
>
> --
> Robin Hugh Johnson
> Gentoo Linux Developer & Infra Guy
> E-Mail     : robbat2@gentoo.org
> GnuPG FP   : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED  F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85
>

Could you please provide a link to a location where I may find this stage
builder proposition?

-- 
Aaron Lebahn
cplusplus328@gmail.com

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

[Aaron Lebahn]

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On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Robin H. Johnson <robbat2@gentoo.org>wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 02:57:56PM -0600, Aaron Lebahn wrote:
> > Could you please provide a link to a location where I may find this stage
> > builder proposition?
>
> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/2009_Summer_Of_Code_Ideas#Create_a_Web-based_Gentoo_image_builder
>
> --
> Robin Hugh Johnson
> Gentoo Linux Developer & Infra Guy
> E-Mail     : robbat2@gentoo.org
> GnuPG FP   : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED  F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85
>

The difference would be that that proposition is web-based. I propose either
a locally built or pre-built installer.

-- 
Aaron Lebahn
cplusplus328@gmail.com

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

[Caleb Cushing]

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Aaron Lebahn <cplusplus328@gmail.com> wrote:
> The difference would be that that proposition is web-based. I propose either
> a locally built or pre-built installer.

and the advantage over say... stage4's?

-- 
Caleb Cushing

http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

[Nirbheek Chauhan]

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Caleb Cushing <xenoterracide@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Aaron Lebahn <cplusplus328@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The difference would be that that proposition is web-based. I propose either
>> a locally built or pre-built installer.
>
> and the advantage over say... stage4's?
>

Incidentally, I was thinking the same thing.


-- 
~Nirbheek Chauhan

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

[Gilles Dartiguelongue]

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Le mercredi 25 mars 2009 à 11:42 -0600, Aaron Lebahn a écrit :
> Hello, I would like to apply as a student in the Google Summer of Code
> program. I would like to work on creating a simple method to install
> Gentoo on an EeePC. This will involve creating scripts and code that
> will preconfigure the Gentoo instalation to be optimized for the
> EeePC, and to contain all of the appropriate modules and
> configurations to enable all hardware on the EeePC.
> I own an EeePC 900 with which I wil be abe to test. I am uncertain if
> this or something similar has been done before, or if this is an
> appropriate Google SOC project. Please give feedback or questions,
> thankyou.

I'm a bit late on this but, 

by experience (I did it for work a few months ago), creating an eeepc
specific gentoo chroot/squashfs is no more than 3 days worth of work
with a dual p4 @3ghz (1 week if you're not so familiar with gentoo
maybe) so I don't see anything challenging here. Working on enhancing
stage builder or stage4 generation (or whatever you name it) would be
more interesting for the project as a whole and require much more time
which would probably satisfy GSoC objectives.

-- 
Gilles Dartiguelongue <eva@gentoo.org>
Gentoo

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