From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LgH69-0002MN-TS for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 11:23:14 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 82436E0682; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.tmcs.ch (113.245.131.213.static.inetbone.net [213.131.245.113]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311C3E0682 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (121-180.3-85.cust.bluewin.ch [85.3.180.121]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.tmcs.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4980D16B1B91 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:23:11 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3 From: Tiziano =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=FCller?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200903081205.51747.Arfrever.FTA@gmail.com> References: <1236498557.6854.51.camel@neuromancer> <49B37D05.50206@gentoo.org> <1236505424.9458.43.camel@neuromancer> <200903081205.51747.Arfrever.FTA@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-crIGbxr8fHbmztnMScot" Organization: Gentoo Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:23:01 +0100 Message-Id: <1236511381.9458.45.camel@neuromancer> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 X-Archives-Salt: 09fef36b-92da-4ce5-a6de-af15575f5ce6 X-Archives-Hash: a038ade9dfe52da718481118eb4266eb --=-crIGbxr8fHbmztnMScot Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Sonntag, den 08.03.2009, 12:05 +0100 schrieb Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis: > 2009-03-08 10:43:44 Tiziano M=C3=BCller napisa=C5=82(a): > > Am Sonntag, den 08.03.2009, 00:08 -0800 schrieb Josh Saddler: > > > Tiziano M=C3=BCller wrote: > > > > Hi everyone > > > >=20 > > > > With eapis 1 and 2 we introduced nice features but also a couple of= new > > > > problems. One of them are the use dependencies when the package you > > > > depend on doesn't have the use flag anymore (see [1] for an example= ). > > > >=20 > > > > So I think it's time for a short eapi bump with some distinct > > > > improvements: > > > >=20 > > > > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=3DpPAJXP6shYH78lCXeqRqCUQ > > >=20 > > > Is there a reason why we should ram through a new EAPI for something > > > that *looks* like another "Paludis supports this so let's make it a > > > Portage standard" proposal? > > Ok, first it's not about paludis,portage,pkgcore,whatever but about the > > ebuild-format. Paludis also fails if you have DEPEND=3D"cat/foo[moo]" i= n > > bar-0.1.ebuild but cat/foo doesn't have a "moo" USE flag. > >=20 > > So, please let's focus on the problems we have and try to find a > > solution. Please fill in the blanks in the table if you know how portag= e > > has it implemented. > >=20 > > And I used the word "fast" because people start to use use-dependencies > > on a larger scale leading to more problems like the one I described in > > the example. In fact, you could already say that for git the dep-tree i= s > > broken because newer subversion doesn't carry the "dso" USE flag > > anymore. >=20 > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/dev-util/subversion/subve= rsion-1.5.5.ebuild?view=3Dmarkup > contains: > IUSE=3D"apache2 berkdb debug doc +dso emacs extras java nls perl python r= uby sasl vim-syntax +webdav-neon webdav-serf" > ^^^ True, but subversion-1.4* doesn't. Anyway, it was meant as an example... --=-crIGbxr8fHbmztnMScot Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkmzqpUACgkQGwVqY66cHjDAowCeOSK4/iCrUSfk67rXU9wuM51o 7rMAn2rqjLCgA45HfHRCzbV70Fn72WfN =MaWs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-crIGbxr8fHbmztnMScot--