From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LgFY3-0007GK-VG for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 09:43:56 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC177E039B; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:43:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.tmcs.ch (113.245.131.213.static.inetbone.net [213.131.245.113]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B00AE039B for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:43:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (121-180.3-85.cust.bluewin.ch [85.3.180.121]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.tmcs.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E268C16B1601 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 10:43:53 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3 From: Tiziano =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=FCller?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <49B37D05.50206@gentoo.org> References: <1236498557.6854.51.camel@neuromancer> <49B37D05.50206@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-59jNINNbvWy1BtoRP/UI" Organization: Gentoo Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:43:44 +0100 Message-Id: <1236505424.9458.43.camel@neuromancer> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 X-Archives-Salt: e4c98615-6559-4058-8737-7c8f7ceb4d79 X-Archives-Hash: 977f26da4b52d84f29398fd6d6c7cd3a --=-59jNINNbvWy1BtoRP/UI Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Sonntag, den 08.03.2009, 00:08 -0800 schrieb Josh Saddler: > Tiziano M=C3=BCller wrote: > > Hi everyone > >=20 > > With eapis 1 and 2 we introduced nice features but also a couple of new > > problems. One of them are the use dependencies when the package you > > depend on doesn't have the use flag anymore (see [1] for an example). > >=20 > > So I think it's time for a short eapi bump with some distinct > > improvements: > >=20 > > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=3DpPAJXP6shYH78lCXeqRqCUQ >=20 > Is there a reason why we should ram through a new EAPI for something > that *looks* like another "Paludis supports this so let's make it a > Portage standard" proposal? Ok, first it's not about paludis,portage,pkgcore,whatever but about the ebuild-format. Paludis also fails if you have DEPEND=3D"cat/foo[moo]" in bar-0.1.ebuild but cat/foo doesn't have a "moo" USE flag. So, please let's focus on the problems we have and try to find a solution. Please fill in the blanks in the table if you know how portage has it implemented. And I used the word "fast" because people start to use use-dependencies on a larger scale leading to more problems like the one I described in the example. In fact, you could already say that for git the dep-tree is broken because newer subversion doesn't carry the "dso" USE flag anymore. > Is there some kind of time deadline here > that you all want? Well, 2 weeks discussion and 1 month implementation would be cool. --=-59jNINNbvWy1BtoRP/UI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkmzk1AACgkQGwVqY66cHjDKZgCcDrOB7dKiCFu7WJVSXjZbTVdv 7ZcAnRsSuUL9avz0rA1yz7zTk9wX3A+t =ERfV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-59jNINNbvWy1BtoRP/UI--