From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L7Gh6-0007LS-Vb for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:52:41 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C0B39E03F1; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:52:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx1.esiee.fr (mx1.esiee.fr [147.215.1.35]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9522FE03F1 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 21:52:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by mx1.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033E8130D9F for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:52:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id EC0732C0DA for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:52:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from secure.esiee.fr (secure.esiee.fr [147.215.1.19]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16C12C0DA for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:52:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.42.0.7] (APuteaux-552-1-17-85.w92-132.abo.wanadoo.fr [92.132.248.85]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dartigug) by secure.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D60BFE8DE2 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:52:38 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Saving package emerge output (einfo, elog, ewarn, etc.) somewhere official From: Gilles Dartiguelongue To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <4932BE8F.6030000@gentoo.org> References: <4932BE8F.6030000@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-mhda4Zd5aWngkJ6zV+Sn" Organization: Gentoo Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:52:38 +0100 Message-Id: <1228168358.23326.6.camel@keitaro> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.2 X-Archives-Salt: 0f4bd839-595e-4853-bfd6-d915986d0c52 X-Archives-Hash: 1c53b5bc983a988ca0b65d68b9b2deea --=-mhda4Zd5aWngkJ6zV+Sn Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Summarizing from what I've read in this thread it seems you want to find a way to help user find information s/he doesn't look for.=20 If users aren't curious about their system they will sure have a hard time figuring out how to fix it if needs be. PORTAGE_ELOG_* isn't really that hard to find in the make.conf.example (even though it's new location makes it a bit harder to find). As others have said, there are already proper systems, documentation and linking through other docs. Not finding this is what I'd call lazyness or lack of google foo. Don't misunderstand me, some stuff can get ouf of the radar of everyone, it's ok, real people are still here to point you in the right direction. If you find a better way to convey these information to the users, then please surprise me. For now I think we are in a good shape. --=20 Gilles Dartiguelongue Gentoo --=-mhda4Zd5aWngkJ6zV+Sn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Ceci est une partie de message =?ISO-8859-1?Q?num=E9riquement?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_sign=E9e?= -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkk0XKYACgkQ1fmVwcYIWAbpIQCgvcxr6Gw/hzzV34WxGN/kDOYA or0AoOJDLCNx9hI7Wa5oPZ2TPqWoD1e5 =DuYv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-mhda4Zd5aWngkJ6zV+Sn--