Matti Bickel wrote: > Tobias Scherbaum wrote: > > What if this would break deps or it's a very common package for example > > belonging to the set of system packages? > > Then the maintainer moans and does nothing. I guess that's where the > "MAY" part from above comes in. Policy should not be an excuse to stop > thinking. And if i break a user system when i drop my stable keywords, > IMHO i'm violating the 'work as pleasently and efficiently as possible' > bit of our philosophy. That would people require to use common sense. The past has shown that people tend to have different views of what common sense might be in a given case. Therefore policy in that aspect needs to be as clear and understandable as possible to avoid unnecessary discussions. > So bottom-line: i'm very much in favour of your solution to question #1. > And i'd like to stress the "automatic" bit. Yes, we can get access to > tinderboxes. But last i looked, this involved tracking down the person > responsible for it, asking for access and doing everything you need to > get your package to compile. Well, i'm lazy, so i didn't do it. > > Automatic tinderbox testing would very much help in the process. Maybe > someone can write a script so that once a maintainer opens/gives his OK > to a stable bug, automatic testing could be started and the results > posted back to the bug? Sounds like a very good and doable idea to me. Process might be as easy as CC'ing a arch-tinderbox on a bug, a script does parse the bug number out of the mail being sent out and using gatt it catches the ebuild to test, compiles it and reports back a) failure/success, b) error log as attachment if it fails plus c) if there was a test-phase. Might be just a quick hack using pybugz and gatt :) > After the timeframe (30 days? 60? I don't know, and it's not important > at this point) maintainers could move to stable their package themself > IF the automatic tests indicate success AND no arch member has spoken > up. Agreed. Tobias -- Gentoo Linux - Die Metadistribution http://www.mitp.de/5941 http://www.metadistribution.eu https://www.xing.com/profile/Tobias_Scherbaum