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From: Peter Volkov <pva@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev]  Re: Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June]
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:42:28 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1213540950.16905.149.camel@camobap> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <g2qjln$fji$1@ger.gmane.org>

В Чтв, 12/06/2008 в 09:36 +0200, Markus Ullmann пишет:
> The PMS maintainers were withholding information on compatibility
> issues they've seen. As such we can't be sure this will pop up again
> in the future and so I strongly suggest dismissing this as something
> official for gentoo.

Dismissing does not fix PMS. Since PMS requires some specific
knowledge about package manager (PM) internals only few people can
decide on this matters and do actual work. I think what council could do
is to formalize PMS process and thus move from this "draft" point.

By formalizing I mean the following: call for and form PMS team. Team
must represent portage developers and could paludis and pkgcore. All
suggestions for PMS draft must go into bugzilla and after patch for PMS
is created PMS team members should vote on that patch. After voting
patch is applied or discarded. Until there are open bugs in bugzilla
council can not approve PMS.

Of course this is just a sketch of idea. I'm not expanding it and not
trying to discuss details at the moment as to make it viable at least
one portage developer should support this idea... But even without
portage developers this process at least could clear a bit the
situation. For example, currently, PMS team does not include anybody
from portage team - official PM team and thus this team can't represent
Gentoo interests. So until team which will represent Gentoo interests
arise, they'll work on PMS bugs and tell us that PMS is ready we should
not spend our time discussing PMS and trying to approve it.

-- 
Peter.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-15 14:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-11  3:06 [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June Mike Frysinger
2008-06-11 11:11 ` Brian Harring
2008-06-11 11:19   ` Fernando J. Pereda
2008-06-11 11:22   ` David Leverton
2008-06-12 17:09   ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-06-12 17:14     ` [gentoo-council] " Mike Frysinger
2008-06-12 17:29       ` Santiago M. Mola
2008-06-12 17:41       ` David Leverton
2008-06-12 18:03       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-12 19:14         ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-06-12 19:45           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-13  2:22       ` Brian Harring
2008-06-13  2:20     ` Brian Harring
2008-06-13  9:52       ` David Leverton
2008-06-12 19:34   ` Doug Goldstein
2008-06-12 19:44     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-12 19:56       ` Doug Goldstein
2008-06-12 20:39       ` Jan Kundrát
2008-06-13  5:24         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-13  8:00           ` Jan Kundrát
2008-06-12 22:11       ` George Prowse
2008-06-12 22:42         ` Thomas Anderson
2008-06-13  1:53           ` George Prowse
2008-06-12 21:19     ` Doug Goldstein
2008-06-12 21:24       ` Luca Barbato
2008-06-12 21:56         ` Alec Warner
2008-06-12 22:12           ` Luca Barbato
2008-06-11 21:58 ` [gentoo-dev] Agenda [WAS: One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for June] Donnie Berkholz
2008-06-12  7:19   ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-06-12  9:11     ` Denis Dupeyron
2008-06-12  7:36   ` [gentoo-dev] " Markus Ullmann
2008-06-12  7:41     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-12  7:52       ` Luca Barbato
2008-06-12  8:01         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-12  8:12           ` Luca Barbato
2008-06-12  8:16             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-12  8:24               ` Denis Dupeyron
2008-06-12  8:26                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-12  8:40               ` Brian Harring
2008-06-12  8:48                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-12 17:32             ` George Prowse
2008-06-12 18:04               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-12 22:03                 ` George Prowse
2008-06-12  9:31     ` David Leverton
2008-06-12 21:21     ` Wernfried Haas
2008-06-12 21:58       ` David Leverton
2008-06-13  0:42         ` Duncan
2008-06-13  1:12           ` Duncan
2008-06-13  1:13           ` David Leverton
2008-06-13  4:00             ` Arun Raghavan
2008-06-13  5:26               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-13  6:02                 ` Arun Raghavan
2008-06-13  8:16                 ` Duncan
2008-06-13  8:26                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-13  9:01                 ` Patrick Lauer
2008-06-13  9:07                   ` Fernando J. Pereda
2008-06-13  9:16                     ` Patrick Lauer
2008-06-13  9:22                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-13  9:53                         ` Patrick Lauer
2008-06-13  9:57                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-13 10:18                             ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2008-06-13 10:22                               ` David Leverton
2008-06-19  0:17                                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-06-13 10:23                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-19  0:19                                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-06-13 10:24                               ` Fernando J. Pereda
2008-06-13 10:10                         ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2008-06-13 10:14                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-13 10:22                             ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2008-06-13 10:27                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-19  0:23                                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-06-19  5:52                                   ` David Leverton
2008-06-19  7:41                                     ` Luca Barbato
2008-06-19  8:04                                       ` David Leverton
2008-06-19 23:15                                       ` Jan Kundrát
2008-06-19 23:36                                         ` Luca Barbato
2008-06-13 12:44                               ` Duncan
2008-06-19  0:27                                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-06-19  0:16                             ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-06-13 10:19                           ` David Leverton
2008-06-13 10:22                             ` Luca Barbato
2008-06-19  0:18                               ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-06-19  7:44                                 ` Luca Barbato
2008-06-19  8:06                                   ` David Leverton
2008-06-19 17:06                                     ` Jeroen Roovers
2008-06-19 19:58                                       ` David Leverton
2008-06-19 23:34                                       ` Jan Kundrát
2008-06-13 10:23                             ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2008-06-13 10:32                               ` David Leverton
2008-06-13 10:51                                 ` Brian Harring
2008-06-13  9:47                       ` Fernando J. Pereda
2008-06-13  9:08                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-13  6:37             ` Roy Marples
2008-06-15 14:42     ` Peter Volkov [this message]
2008-06-15 14:50       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-15 18:27         ` Peter Volkov
2008-06-15 18:46           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-19  1:43         ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-06-19  2:40           ` Mauricio Lima Pilla
2008-06-19  3:09             ` George Prowse
2008-06-19  5:40               ` David Leverton
2008-06-19  7:46                 ` Luca Barbato
2008-06-19  8:07                   ` David Leverton
2008-06-19  8:03               ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2008-06-19 12:28               ` Patrick Börjesson
2008-06-19 13:02                 ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2008-06-19 13:10                   ` David Leverton
2008-06-19 13:19                     ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2008-06-19 13:21                       ` Richard Brown
2008-06-19 14:03                         ` Arun Raghavan
2008-06-19 20:45                           ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2008-06-19 20:49                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-06-19 13:26                       ` David Leverton
2008-06-19 13:52                         ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2008-06-19 14:10                           ` David Leverton
2008-06-19 14:31                   ` Patrick Börjesson
2008-06-19  8:08           ` Duncan
2008-06-19 11:11           ` Roy Marples
2008-06-19 17:28             ` Robert Bridge
2008-06-19 18:59               ` Ferris McCormick
2008-06-15 15:04       ` David Leverton
2008-06-19  1:44         ` Chris Gianelloni

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