From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-30411-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1JndSO-0000OL-Vp for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:36:05 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E2DA0E041F; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B0EE041F for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 47D4B14935 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:36:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from secure.esiee.fr (secure.esiee.fr [147.215.1.19]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A63314935 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:36:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.42.0.7] (APuteaux-755-1-7-186.w90-35.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.35.98.186]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dartigug) by secure.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 172DCE7C01 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:36:02 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: keyring From: Gilles Dartiguelongue <eva@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <9e0cf0bf0804201025t66dac84frffe91f09c6098d7d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1208702743.15500.4.camel@marx> <1208711656.13942.3.camel@keitaro.perronet.esiee.net> <9e0cf0bf0804201025t66dac84frffe91f09c6098d7d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-/mrNAumWAABT7MiVgYb1" Organization: Gentoo Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:36:03 +0200 Message-Id: <1208712963.13942.6.camel@keitaro.perronet.esiee.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1 X-Archives-Salt: 62d743da-f897-4dbc-8f2c-5533a9528fa8 X-Archives-Hash: b9f80256df05abe76fe5016aa3630b46 --=-/mrNAumWAABT7MiVgYb1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le dimanche 20 avril 2008 =C3=A0 20:25 +0300, Alon Bar-Lev a =C3=A9crit : > On 4/20/08, Gilles Dartiguelongue <eva@gentoo.org> wrote: > > for what it's worth, as a gnome dev I didn't see any convincing > > arguments as to why it should be renamed. Gnome makes things optional > > for other to reuse (like xfce) but afaik no other "keyring" like > > programs are optional deps of another package in portage. Let's not ca= st > > a simple change into breakage for users already using it (even in > > stable, and yes I'm lazy :D). >=20 > Lazy is the word. > I cannot argue with this one, I just know that it won't be the gnome > herd who do the work when the time come to fix this (resolve > conflict). > The gnome herd will re-introduce the lazy ticket, and make other herd > use yet another confusing USE flag. > This is not the right way to maintain long term constants. failure, you tried to argue ;) > You asked for objections... You got some. >=20 > You can leave this local USE flag, and stay with generic term. > Or you can rename it when it goes global so it have proper name. > You can also ignore this and force gnome onto all users. Seriously though, when I find stuff to fix, I try to fix it. I just don't see anything to fix right now. --=20 Gilles Dartiguelongue <eva@gentoo.org> Gentoo --=-/mrNAumWAABT7MiVgYb1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Ceci est une partie de message =?ISO-8859-1?Q?num=E9riquement?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_sign=E9e?= -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkgLfwMACgkQ1fmVwcYIWAZXEQCaAn0vy6KTuygQ5pRgxr6+6F7B N6YAni/Ih/2kkatOa0x/57y5sSHEZEd5 =qQFa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-/mrNAumWAABT7MiVgYb1-- -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list