From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JmD1R-0006rS-0D for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:10:21 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F792E07B6; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:10:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cgianelloni.localdomain (dsl211-165-131.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [74.211.165.131]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7BBE07B6 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:10:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by cgianelloni.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 31B9EA8400E; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Early stabilisation From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <4805CBBA.5030100@gentoo.org> References: <20080415224619.387012bc@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> <4805CBBA.5030100@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:09:24 -0700 Message-Id: <1208372964.4501.45.camel@cgianelloni.quova.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1 X-Archives-Salt: c189a276-ddfe-4188-86a2-732c633282ee X-Archives-Hash: 4eb0e9963f4a929b720691849f2f9899 On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 11:49 +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote: > > thirty days is the norm for the minimal period between an ebuilds last It is the norm. It is not a requirement. In fact, it is specifically a "guideline" rather than a hard rule. It is up to the maintainer's discretion when to ask for stabilization, just like it is up to the arch team's discretion when to actually *do* the stabilization. If you don't think that it's ready on your arch, say so, but be prepared to defend why you think so when the package maintainer, who should be much more familiar with the package, thinks that it is ready. > > On the other hand, maybe these early stabilisation bug reports are a > > sign of the times and we need to shorten the normal thirty day period, > > become even more of a cutting edge distro - or at least discuss the > > options. > > I'd say leave the current norm and smack the misbehaving maintainers :) Who says that they're misbehaving? Again, the maintainers probably know their packages better than anyone else, so why are we not trusting their judgement again? -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Games Developer -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list