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From: Jakub Moc <jakub@gentoo.org>
To: Paul de Vrieze <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 13:24:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1207770529.20060301132441@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200603011310.03244.pauldv@gentoo.org>

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1.3.2006, 13:09:55, Paul de Vrieze wrote:

> On Tuesday 28 February 2006 21:20, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:

>> | >     if [ "${IS_UPGRADE}" = "1" ] ; then
>> | >         einfo "Removing old version ${REMOVE_PKG}"
>> | >
>> | >         emerge -C "${REMOVE_PKG}"
>> | >     fi

> This code (or an equivalent kludge/hack) does however allow features that are
> of great value to our users. While I agree that such hacks should be avoided
> if possible, I think in this case it is not. As such the appropriate response
> is to isolate the hack in a central place, where it is clear to be seen and 
> can easilly be fixed. This allows the quality of the hack to be ensured, 
> relieving many webapps from doing hacks themselves.

> While this hack is being used, some effort should be put into
> constructively creating a proper solution for the problems that were
> hacked around. Saying  "this is not allowed because of X policy" is not
> helpful as the costs of  disallowing it greatly outweigh the costs of
> overlooking it in a controlled  manner.

Well yeah, but the problem here is that portage doesn't allow such stuff to
be used safely (locking issues, race conditions). And yeah, it's kinda
lacking sort of feature that would have its use in a couple of places.

--

jakub

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-01 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 168+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-26 22:22 [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role Mark Loeser
2006-02-26 22:58 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-26 23:13   ` johnm
2006-02-26 23:51   ` Daniel Goller
2006-02-27  0:42   ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-26 23:11 ` johnm
2006-02-26 23:21   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-26 23:35     ` johnm
2006-02-27  0:09       ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-27  0:29         ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-27  0:35           ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-27  1:53             ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-27  2:10               ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-27  3:34                 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-27  5:13                   ` Ned Ludd
2006-02-27  6:25                     ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-27 16:35               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 16:47                 ` Lance Albertson
2006-02-27 17:15                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 10:21                     ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 14:48                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:02                         ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-27 17:30                   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28  9:19                     ` John Mylchreest
2006-02-28 16:04                   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-27 20:05                 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-27  5:09           ` Ned Ludd
2006-02-27 16:37             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27  8:58         ` John Mylchreest
2006-02-26 23:41     ` Alec Warner
2006-02-26 23:51       ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-27  0:12       ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-27  9:09         ` John Mylchreest
2006-02-27 16:37           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 17:09             ` John Mylchreest
2006-02-27 17:18               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-26 23:48 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-27  0:34   ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-27  1:21     ` Daniel Goller
2006-02-27  9:00     ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-27 17:08       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 17:21         ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-27 18:12           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 17:31         ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-27 20:26         ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-27 20:37           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 20:45             ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-27 20:54               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 21:02                 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-27 21:04                 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-02-27 21:18                   ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-02-27 21:34                     ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-27 22:38                     ` Grant Goodyear
2006-02-27 23:07                     ` Alec Warner
2006-02-27 21:34                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 10:42                     ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-27 21:12                 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-27 21:32                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28  9:49                     ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 14:31                       ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 14:39                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:08                         ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 15:29                           ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 15:42                             ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 16:23                               ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 16:24                               ` [gentoo-dev] Policies (was: [RFC] QA Team's role) Danny van Dyk
2006-02-28 16:39                                 ` Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 18:35                                   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 15:29                           ` [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-01  7:37                             ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-03-01 16:44                               ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 16:00                           ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 11:45                     ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-27 21:43                   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28  6:11                   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-27 20:49             ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-27 21:33               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28  9:38                 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 12:54                   ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-02-28 13:34                     ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 14:00                       ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-02-28 14:33                         ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 15:07                         ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 14:21                     ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-28 14:46                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 14:55                         ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-28 14:52                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:12                     ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 15:26                       ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 15:42                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 16:11                           ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 16:35                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 17:00                               ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 17:09                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 17:30                                   ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 17:38                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 17:59                                       ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 18:09                                         ` Dan Meltzer
2006-02-28 18:12                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 19:03                                           ` Wernfried Haas
2006-02-28 18:14                                         ` Fernando J. Pereda
2006-02-28 18:19                                         ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 18:55                                           ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 18:01                                       ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 18:02                                       ` Alec Warner
2006-02-28 19:11                                         ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2006-02-28 19:21                                           ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 19:24                                           ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 19:09                                       ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 19:42                                         ` Danny van Dyk
2006-02-28 20:20                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-01 12:09                                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-03-01 12:24                                             ` Jakub Moc [this message]
2006-03-01 13:16                                       ` Simon Stelling
2006-02-28 17:02                               ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 17:11                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 17:51                                   ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 19:59                                     ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 20:10                                       ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 20:39                                         ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 21:02                                           ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 21:31                                             ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 21:50                                               ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 21:55                                                 ` Dan Meltzer
2006-02-28 22:10                                                   ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 21:57                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 22:12                                                   ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 22:14                                                 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-02-28 22:36                                                   ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 23:34                                                     ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-28 23:45                                                       ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 23:57                                                         ` Mark Loeser
2006-03-01  0:13                                                       ` Lance Albertson
2006-03-01  0:28                                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-01  0:40                                                           ` Mike Frysinger
2006-03-01  7:17                                                             ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-03-01  2:22                                                         ` Lance Albertson
2006-02-28 22:42                                                   ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 22:50                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 23:10                                                       ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 23:45                                                     ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-28 21:58                                               ` Alec Warner
2006-02-28 23:08                                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-03-01 12:24                                                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 18:00                                   ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 18:39                                     ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 19:27                                       ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 19:38                                         ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 19:42                                         ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-02-28 16:40                             ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 16:22                           ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 16:39                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:30                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:17                     ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 15:31                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-01  7:21                         ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-03-01 10:29                           ` Danny van Dyk
2006-03-01 11:02                             ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-03-01 12:30                         ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 15:21                     ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-27 20:57             ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-28 10:34             ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 14:47               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:22                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-27 18:05 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-02-27 18:19   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 10:55     ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-27 19:05   ` Mark Loeser

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