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* [gentoo-dev] Re: Help offered - Portage tree
@ 2008-03-13 22:03 davecode
  2008-03-13 22:10 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
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  0 siblings, 6 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: davecode @ 2008-03-13 22:03 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

Well I'm a newcomer to Gentoo and never heard of Sabayon (great project
btw).  Knowing no one here or there, nor any history:

This conversation reminds me of Human Resources.  They always have
'procedures' and 'career tracks.'  Gentoo's chitchat about earning gold
stars and brownie points is giving me HR sickness.  You're asking
Michael Jordan to prove himself on the high school team.

I've read Gentoo's new dev announcements about monkeys and paper
weights.  People with a couple of small open-source projects.  The
monkeys and paper weights get CVS rights.  Then the chief architect of
Sabayon is scotched over bugzilla output?  Please.  That smells like bad
fish.

When someone as expert as this offers help, take it and make him a fast
lane.  He is worth ten bugzillas.  Like a scientist once told me - it
would be inefficient for him to clean his office, they have janitors for
that.

Bugzillas are broken and most Linux people know it.  Ubuntu has hundreds
of bugs sitting around for years and years.  Personally: I have stopped
filing bugzillas at various places.  Projects organized around bugzillas
are inefficient.

Bugzillas are mostly good for non-devs to report bugs.  I know zero
developers who first think to themselves, "ok, I need a project
bugzilla...then I can begin writing code."  That isn't how development
works.

"So you don't have time to file bugs but you would have time to fix
them" is rhetoric.  The issue is ROI.  Why file bugzillas that some
"dev" authority figure may or may not fix in two years, when you can fix
the code yourself?

If you want to call him a Gentoo developer, then do so ASAP, and give
him CVS.  He knows what he is doing and filing bugzillas is a waste of
talent.  If you let him fix his own bugzillas he might go for that.

But wasting his life trying to earn brownie points and respect?  Sad. 
Gentoo needs the manpower and blowing it off with HR excuses is really,
really dumb.  I can hardly believe what I'm reading.  It makes me want
to cry.  Maybe I should help Sabayon deploy on PowerPC instead of
writing to you guys.  I don't really care who misunderstood whom, or who
has an attitude problem.  There needs to be a red carpet for people like
this.  I would not care if he had a 666 on his head.

You need to attract people like this and if bugzilla isn't working,
think up something new.

If you dislike his CVS mods you can always revert, take votes, etc.  But
I say +1 let him have at it.

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* [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree
@ 2008-03-12 23:35 Fabio Erculiani
  2008-03-12 23:46 ` Jan Kundrát
  2008-03-13 19:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " René 'Necoro' Neumann
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Fabio Erculiani @ 2008-03-12 23:35 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

Hi all,
I'm sure I'll find some sabayon-hater here, but my purpose won't be
answering to them.
I offer my help to fix DEPEND/RDEPEND split issues which is causing me
a lot of headaches (along with localizations).
For reference, please have a look here: http://planet.sabayonlinux.org/?p=105

After having discussed with one of your dev about it, he suggested me
to ask here looking for a mentor. If there's anything I can do, I'm
ready.

Despite some of you might think, I love Gentoo since 2001 :)

Cheers
-- 
Fabio Erculiani
Information and Communication Technologies Consultant
Sabayon Linux Chief Architect
http://www.sabayonlinux.org
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2008-03-13 22:03 [gentoo-dev] Re: Help offered - Portage tree davecode
2008-03-13 22:10 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2008-03-13 22:33 ` Anant Narayanan
2008-03-13 23:10 ` Petteri Räty
2008-03-13 23:29 ` Pierre-Yves Rofes
2008-03-13 22:43   ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-20  4:06   ` davecode
2008-03-14 16:30 ` Christian Faulhammer
2008-03-14 17:16   ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-14 18:08     ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2008-03-15  9:37     ` Jakub Moc
2008-03-16  7:41 ` Luca Barbato
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2008-03-12 23:35 [gentoo-dev] " Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-12 23:46 ` Jan Kundrát
2008-03-12 23:57   ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13  7:33     ` Thilo Bangert
2008-03-13  9:24       ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 10:27         ` Robin H. Johnson
2008-03-13 12:53           ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 13:10             ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 13:27               ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2008-03-13 16:22                 ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 16:43                   ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 17:42                     ` Rémi Cardona
2008-03-13 19:59                     ` Robin H. Johnson
2008-03-14 12:47                     ` Gilles Dartiguelongue
2008-03-13 16:52                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-03-13 17:00                     ` Fabio Erculiani
2008-03-13 19:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " René 'Necoro' Neumann
2008-03-13 19:37   ` [gentoo-dev] " Markus Ullmann

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