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From: Peter Volkov <pva@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-core@lists.gentoo.org, gentoo-dev <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Keywords policy
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:24:27 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1205234667.2063.136.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080311063648.0ea54906@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net>

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В Втр, 11/03/2008 в 06:36 +0100, Jeroen Roovers пишет:
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:04:54 -0600
> Ryan Hill <dirtyepic@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> > Just like when you add a new ebuild, you add it with the keywords for
> > architectures you personally have verified to work.
> 
> It seems you're confusing packages and ebuilds now.

Jeroen, there are two different things that were already told in this
tread, but I'll try to repeat in different words, in hope to make them
clearer.

1. keywords were dropped on purpose: kde-4 is a major rewrite and it is
supposed to be thoroughly tested by arch team before becoming ~arch.
This fits our current policy.

2. you can not expect anything about the hardmasked ebuild/package[1]:
don't expect that it'll work, don't expect maintainers to tell you
anything (fill you bug) about it. We have such packages in the tree
because some brave users[2] and maintainers want to test them before
they'll enter ~arch. But for users we have policy to prohibit bugs for
hardmasked packages because if you want to report anything back you are
supposed to follow Gentoo and upstream development and if you follow,
you'll know what reports are allowed and that this policy is not quite
true :). If you'd followed kde development you'd were aware about
changes and you tested packages together with kde developers and ebuilds
entered tree with ~hppa. You don't follow kde development than it's
better not to touch hardmasked kde packages.

So if you want to see another policy it's possible to write that arch
teams should not bother to work with hardmasked ebuilds and that's it.
But I do not think we need such policy as hardmasked means hidden far
from users...


[1] yes, the are the same in this context
[2] developers who are not maintainers are users too

With best wishes,
-- 
Peter.

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-11 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-01  5:30 [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March Mike Frysinger
2008-03-01 10:55 ` Raúl Porcel
2008-03-01 12:35   ` Richard Freeman
2008-03-01 12:56     ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2008-03-01 14:28       ` Raúl Porcel
2008-03-01 14:29   ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Weller
2008-03-01 14:41     ` Raúl Porcel
2008-03-01 18:02       ` Richard Freeman
2008-03-01 18:45         ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2008-03-02  2:50           ` Richard Freeman
2008-03-02  3:43           ` Steve Dibb
2008-03-02  8:48             ` George Shapovalov
2008-03-02 12:34               ` Richard Freeman
2008-03-02 13:12                 ` Jan Kundrát
2008-03-03  7:32                 ` George Shapovalov
2008-03-02  9:56           ` Santiago M. Mola
2008-03-03  0:31             ` Christian Faulhammer
2008-03-01 18:47         ` [gentoo-dev] " Raúl Porcel
2008-03-01 22:33           ` Ed W
2008-03-02  2:45           ` Richard Freeman
2008-03-01 14:39   ` Peter Weller
2008-03-01 17:56     ` Peter Volkov
2008-03-05 17:11 ` Anant Narayanan
2008-03-05 17:24   ` Jean-Noël Rivasseau
2008-03-05 17:45   ` Marius Mauch
2008-03-05 18:10     ` Anant Narayanan
2008-03-06 14:08       ` Denis Dupeyron
2008-03-05 18:24     ` Thomas Anderson
2008-03-05 19:41       ` Petteri Räty
2008-03-05 20:04         ` Thomas Anderson
2008-03-05 19:59           ` Doug Goldstein
2008-03-05 20:31             ` Thomas Anderson
2008-03-05 21:05               ` Petteri Räty
2008-03-05 21:40                 ` Thomas Anderson
2008-03-05 22:09                   ` Petteri Räty
2008-03-06  3:38                 ` Anant Narayanan
2008-03-06  7:31                   ` Alec Warner
2008-03-06 12:17                   ` [gentoo-dev] proxy-maintaner improvement (was: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March) Peter Volkov
2008-03-05 21:07               ` [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March Doug Goldstein
2008-03-05 22:13                 ` Robin H. Johnson
2008-03-05 20:32             ` Thomas Anderson
2008-03-05 18:19   ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-03-05 20:07   ` Santiago M. Mola
2008-03-06 13:38     ` Zhang Le
2008-03-06 21:25       ` [gentoo-dev] " Markus Ullmann
2008-03-06 21:37         ` Petteri Räty
2008-03-06 23:26         ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2008-03-05 21:45   ` [gentoo-dev] " Josh Saddler
2008-03-06  7:38   ` Roy Marples
2008-03-06  9:02   ` Sébastien Fabbro
2008-03-06  9:15     ` Ioannis Aslanidis
2008-03-07 18:48     ` Marius Mauch
2008-03-10  5:12       ` Natanael Copa
2008-03-10  5:21         ` Alec Warner
2008-03-10  8:29           ` Roy Marples
2008-03-10 11:58             ` Denis Dupeyron
2008-03-10 10:09           ` Natanael Copa
2008-03-10 12:05         ` Peter Volkov
2008-03-10 12:13           ` Alec Warner
2008-03-10 13:39             ` Peter Volkov
2008-03-07  1:56   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2008-03-06 17:31 ` [gentoo-dev] " Jeroen Roovers
2008-03-06 20:41   ` Petteri Räty
2008-03-07  4:42     ` Jeroen Roovers
2008-03-07  5:09       ` Petteri Räty
2008-03-07  7:35         ` Ulrich Mueller
2008-03-07 10:16           ` George Shapovalov
2008-03-07 12:27           ` Petteri Räty
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     [not found]   ` <20080308154504.02af79c2@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net>
     [not found]     ` <200803081610.33774.philantrop@gentoo.org>
     [not found]       ` <20080310060849.4c2bf0c9@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net>
     [not found]         ` <47D4F26C.7050701@gentoo.org>
2008-03-10 12:00           ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Keywords policy Alec Warner
2008-03-10 13:50             ` Wulf C. Krueger
2008-03-10 14:22               ` Alec Warner
2008-03-10 15:26                 ` Wulf C. Krueger
     [not found]                   ` <20080311044938.72401cd7@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net>
2008-03-11  4:40                     ` Ryan Hill
2008-03-11 11:41                       ` Alec Warner
2008-03-11 15:24                         ` Richard Freeman
2008-03-11 19:47                           ` Ferris McCormick
2008-03-11 23:46                             ` Richard Freeman
2008-03-12  1:16                         ` Ryan Hill
     [not found]                     ` <20080311054345.26a83921@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net>
2008-03-11  5:04                       ` Ryan Hill
     [not found]                         ` <20080311063648.0ea54906@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net>
2008-03-11 11:24                           ` Peter Volkov [this message]

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