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( [77.246.104.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d6sm2415871fga.9.2008.03.06.04.19.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:19:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-maintaner improvement (was: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March) From: Peter Volkov To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <6862BE72-6BDF-44D7-BBA3-88CA85A3C93B@gentoo.org> References: <20080301103002.A2AE266A22@smtp.gentoo.org> <200803051504.53703.gentoofan23@gmail.com> <47CEFBBB.3010402@gentoo.org> <200803051531.54153.gentoofan23@gmail.com> <47CF0B05.6040308@gentoo.org> <6862BE72-6BDF-44D7-BBA3-88CA85A3C93B@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-EnXlFRGozj6ArtKrzeft" Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:17:32 +0300 Message-Id: <1204805852.6681.92.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 Sender: Peter Volkov X-Archives-Salt: bb7e3e5c-6312-402f-b89c-c4cdd6de4d0c X-Archives-Hash: dd50c073057e7130dd71affe4a9cca89 --=-EnXlFRGozj6ArtKrzeft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =D0=92 =D0=A7=D1=82=D0=B2, 06/03/2008 =D0=B2 09:08 +0530, Anant Narayanan = =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > The idea is to make the recruitment process as easy and quick as =20 > possible, while ensuring that the person involved has the requisite =20 > skills. Could you explain, how our recruitment process is long and hard? Also how could you ensure that the person involved has the requisite skills without asking him some questions (read quizes)? If potential developer does not have either time or knowledge to answer our quizes he/she'll be unable to maintain packages on a daily/weekly basis: * if candidate knows nothing about ebuilds he/she have to spend some time and learn what they are, or how do you suppose it's possible to maintain packages without such knowledge? We ~40 questions in both quizes. Doing about 1 question a day (no so hard I suppose) it's possible to finish quizes less then in 2 months. * if you know how to write ebuilds, it's possible to finish both quizes in one day, not to hard/long I suppose too. We already have alternatives: proxy-maintainer and sunrise overlay. That said, I agree that proxy-maintainers should be improved. I'll try to gather ideas from this thread and may be add some new. So: * proxy-maintainers work with developers through bugzilla (as we have them now), but after they finish ebuild quiz and recruiters approve it they could: - get access in cvs to maintained packages. In this case: 1. they should have mentors which are subscribed to all proxy-maintainer commits, and the mentor is responsible for all the things proxy-maintainer commits 2. proxy-maintainer couldn't request initial package stabilization, only mentor/dev from herd/team is allowed to do that 3. they should have IRC cloak, forums mark, voice in @gentoo-dev, subscription to -core & -dev-announce. 4. they should be announced in -dev as ordinary Also proxy-maintainers should be mentioned somewhere in the /doc/ area of our web-site. --=20 Peter. --=-EnXlFRGozj6ArtKrzeft Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: =?UTF-8?Q?=D0=AD=D1=82=D0=B0?= =?UTF-8?Q?_=D1=87=D0=B0=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C?= =?UTF-8?Q?_=D1=81=D0=BE=D0=BE=D0=B1=D1=89=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=8F?= =?UTF-8?Q?_=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=B0?= =?UTF-8?Q?_=D1=86=D0=B8=D1=84=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=B9?= =?UTF-8?Q?_=D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=B4=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D1=8C=D1=8E?= -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBHz+Dcz6tlgEWSarMRAmoiAJ0XxtrrKxl/0PknVx92Kz87CHj5RACeOUMZ hKSDSBpNz6bUmBoGNCRj4RM= =aS3R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-EnXlFRGozj6ArtKrzeft-- -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list