From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JJJ3c-000667-02 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:45:08 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A061BE04FE; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76718E04FE for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.43]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iGxp1Y00o0vyq2s590Xd00; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:44:47 +0000 Received: from mail.twi-31o2.org ([24.6.168.204]) by OMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id iRl51Y00B4Qw7hC3R00000; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:45:06 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HnSyW_cTLigA:10 a=pIdgYEwggQ2voxEeqq8A:9 a=ukZUDPR59s54xiyaVtIA:7 a=Yrk4gI9rzzybCpmfEbjVgy_H_j0A:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 a=SCujkBeICEWG53oIMq0A:9 a=yK7NHpSpGsPNNT7S7lP9l9AE2aMA:4 a=rPt6xJ-oxjAA:10 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.twi-31o2.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125468B4003 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:45:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at twi-31o2.org Received: from mail.twi-31o2.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gravity.twi-31o2.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jCdCOxNVCwvB for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.50] (inertia.twi-31o2.org [192.168.0.50]) by mail.twi-31o2.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467BC17B99DB for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: removal of digest files from the tree From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <479D2BB7.7090905@gentoo.org> References: <479BD99A.8010408@gentoo.org> <20080127013537.GU25497@curie-int.orbis-terrarum.net> <479D2BB7.7090905@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-uMWPBwo2BF+Gejm47MhQ" Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:44:38 -0800 Message-Id: <1201484678.6479.61.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.2 X-Archives-Salt: 7e868d5c-a9c0-4d94-af8b-a1102c71eaf4 X-Archives-Hash: 0e225465eb662337661b1a5b0cada715 --=-uMWPBwo2BF+Gejm47MhQ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2008-01-27 at 17:11 -0800, Zac Medico wrote: > >> If there are no objections then I don't so any reason not to go ahead = and add > >> the manifest1_obsolete sometime in the near future. Thoughts? > > Let's do it. I look forward to a lot less inodes on my disks. >=20 > Let's schedule a date for it then and we can have a big announcement > to let everyone know. Dammit. I wanted this before January 31st, so it would make it into the 2008.0 snapshot. Do we think we can get this done by January 31st? I think so. One reason that I think that we don't need to wait very long is rather simple. People running very old versions of portage that will be affected by this are also not likely to read our news or see our front page on a regular basis. They're likely to get broken, no matter what we do. Hell, even posting it to the GMN/forums/lists/planet/front page, we'll still end up getting complaints from these people when they come back $months from now and the news is no longer sticky in the forums, has rotated off the front page, isn't even a distant memory on the lists, and is in a several month old newsletter. When gauging impact/scope of a problem, always look at who it affects and the situation. You only need to take as much precaution as necessary to cover the cases worth spending the time to cover. There will *always* be corner cases. You just try to minimize them. I doubt much of anything aside from portage/paludis/pkgcore use the digest files, and I'd bet that paludis/pkgcore don't use them, at all. I think throwing up an announcement today/tomorrow for Thursday/Friday should be sufficient for this sort of a change, as it won't affect any user who has a version of portage released in the past ~1.5 years. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Games Developer --=-uMWPBwo2BF+Gejm47MhQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.8 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkedM4YACgkQkT4lNIS36YFq8QCgwd/+FD89V0+X4yFgw67UKSZ1 8jYAoKCHRexcV5bv5Cwhi8OlswiC5iuh =CaIk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-uMWPBwo2BF+Gejm47MhQ-- -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list