From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JETEa-0003YW-7y for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:36:28 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB628E07F6; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.twi-31o2.org (c-24-6-168-204.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.168.204]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD82E07F6 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.twi-31o2.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8CF417B99DF for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:36:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at twi-31o2.org Received: from mail.twi-31o2.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gravity.twi-31o2.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dY9P710htBsM for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:36:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (unknown [192.168.1.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.twi-31o2.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8649417B8052 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:36:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Seeking questions for a user survey From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20080114123348.GH5504@curie-int.orbis-terrarum.net> References: <20080114123348.GH5504@curie-int.orbis-terrarum.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-SHafKY+p8mc99FeYm4iD" Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:35:50 -0800 Message-Id: <1200332150.6546.10.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 X-Archives-Salt: 12769786-9d1a-4255-8719-bb0baeb8bfb0 X-Archives-Hash: 26d5bc5b6e39b613a4f22a64881bd5d3 --=-SHafKY+p8mc99FeYm4iD Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 04:33 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > Release-related questions: > - Should CD media be released at a different rate than stage tarballs? > - Desired release frequency for minimal/livecd/GRP/stages (annual, > bi-annual, quarterly, monthly, weekly?) > - Do you use the installer or install by hand? (need an other field here) This question would be interesting, though a little moot. With future releases, we're making the Installer binary-only. The reason is simple, there are too many possible failure opportunities in the live tree or when building from source. The number of "installer bugs" that are simply compilation bugs (many of which are already fixed in newer versions/revisions in the tree) is overwhelming compared to the actual number of bugs in the Installer. By making it binary only, we only allow the Installer to use known-good input for producing a user's system. All networked installs will be manual, and will follow the Handbook. I've thought of producing a simple "default source-based" install script that allows someone to still use a source-based and current installation, without having to type in a bunch of commands. I don't know how well this would be received, but it could be something that you could ask here. > - How often do you use the media? Which media do you use? (minimal, universal, livecd, livedvd) Which version do you use? (So many people tell me things like, "I still use a $version CD, so I think it would be useful...) > - How often do you install Gentoo (using the stage tarballs or the > installer)? > - Do you use GRP?=20 > - Would you like to use GRP in future? > - Binhost questions maybe? > - Do you use the portage snapshot associated with the release or the > latest available snapshot or other? > - Do you use a Gentoo derivative? (give a list with an other option) What features do you think are lacking on Gentoo install media? (free form) --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Games Developer --=-SHafKY+p8mc99FeYm4iD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBHi512kT4lNIS36YERAmqFAKC+F1jx/yGl6v6oFYKLICRatQ0vggCgwhUw f6WSlkvHjItkdbdVczxwMBs= =Nek6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-SHafKY+p8mc99FeYm4iD-- -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list