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From: Peter Volkov <pva@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev]  Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:40:01 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1199616001.25565.28.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <flp6nk$2cj$1@ger.gmane.org>

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В Сбт, 05/01/2008 в 18:17 -0600, Ryan Hill пишет:
> I don't know, I can kinda see both sides.  Alt arches tend to be finicky 
> so it's important that updates are well tested on them.  Also they're 
> more prone to break during upgrades, not only because they're more 
> fragile but because upstream is far less likely to have tested on them, 
> so I can see why having a stable tree is important.

If this is an issue arch developers should tell us that.

Problems with having slacker archs are: open bugs in bugzilla and old
ebuilds which are unsupported by maintainer[1]. Open bug just takes my
time and attention to open it and to find out that we already fixed that
bug and wait for arch to take their action. Old ebuilds they leave me
without satisfaction and lie to our users - I know that they are broken,
but they are still in the tree and are marked as stable.

Open bugs problem can't be solved until we fix problem with old ebuilds
because ordinary for broken/old ebuilds I keep herd/myself in CC of bug
until it's closed to drop old ebuild from the tree.

And for me the problem with old ebuilds could be solved if I could drop
keywords from old ebuilds. Then I could remove herd/myself from CC to
bug. Also if council decide this way I'd like to see recommendation for
slacker arch to drop old ebuild (with none keywords except ~arch) from
the tree by themselves as soon as they stabilize new version.

[1] And security problem could be solved by labeling arch as security
unsupported.

-- 
Peter.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-06 10:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 144+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-01  5:30 [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January Mike Frysinger
2008-01-02 21:49 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2008-01-03 13:02 ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-03 23:54   ` Luca Barbato
2008-01-04  0:01     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-04  0:40       ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2008-01-04  0:46         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-04  1:21           ` Ryan Hill
2008-01-04  1:27             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-04 11:23               ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-04 21:02                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-04 22:26                   ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-04 22:37                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-05  4:20                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-05  4:32                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-05 10:47                           ` Samuli Suominen
2008-01-06  0:32                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-06  1:33                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-
2008-01-06  1:36                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-06  2:18                                   ` Martin Jackson
2008-01-06  2:24                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-06  2:32                                       ` Martin Jackson
2008-01-06  2:38                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-06  2:52                                           ` Martin Jackson
2008-01-06  2:58                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-06  3:35                                               ` Martin Jackson
2008-01-06  7:39                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-06 23:35                                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2008-01-06 23:45                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-07  0:22                                                       ` Christian Faulhammer
2008-01-07  0:44                                                         ` Petteri Räty
2008-01-09 14:37                                                         ` Christian Faulhammer
2008-01-09 14:42                                                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-08  0:42                                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Petteri Räty
2008-01-06  2:57                                           ` Martin Jackson
2008-01-05 14:03                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Caleb Tennis
2008-01-06  0:33                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-06  9:08                               ` Denis Dupeyron
2008-01-06  9:12                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-06 13:09                                   ` Matthias Langer
2008-01-06 23:35                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-07  6:02                                       ` Matthias Langer
2008-01-08 22:08                                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-06 17:36                               ` Ryan Hill
2008-01-06 23:34                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-08 22:04                                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09  2:17                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09  2:38                                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09  2:41                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09  2:44                                           ` Alec Warner
2008-01-09  2:47                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09  2:58                                               ` Ryan Hill
2008-01-09  2:59                                               ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09 14:44                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 15:36                                                   ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-09 15:44                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 16:49                                                       ` Wulf C. Krueger
2008-01-09 17:01                                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 17:19                                                           ` Wulf C. Krueger
2008-01-09 17:27                                                           ` Roy Marples
2008-01-09 18:16                                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 18:29                                                               ` Wulf C. Krueger
2008-01-09 18:45                                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 19:06                                                                   ` Wulf C. Krueger
2008-01-09 19:13                                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 19:47                                                                       ` Pierre-Yves Rofes
2008-01-09 20:33                                                                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-10  7:08                                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-10 18:40                                                                       ` Jeroen Roovers
2008-01-10 19:49                                                                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-10 20:04                                                                         ` Alexander Færøy
2008-01-10 20:11                                                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-10 20:30                                                                           ` Chrissy Fullam
2008-01-09 19:27                                                               ` Roy Marples
2008-01-09 18:07                                                           ` Alec Warner
2008-01-09 18:11                                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 20:31                                                               ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09 19:45                                                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2008-01-09 20:52                                                             ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-10  6:55                                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 18:50                                                   ` Petteri Räty
2008-01-09 18:56                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 20:36                                                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09 20:34                                                     ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09 20:02                                                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09  3:11                                               ` Matthias Langer
2008-01-09 14:46                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 15:30                                                   ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-09 14:58                                               ` Alec Warner
2008-01-09 15:11                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 20:14                                                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09 20:04                                       ` Luca Barbato
2008-01-09 17:56                                     ` Jan Kundrát
2008-01-09 20:30                                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-08 21:57                                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-05 19:57                           ` Petteri Räty
2008-01-08 21:39                           ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-05  4:14                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-05 17:19                     ` Luca Barbato
2008-01-05 18:27                       ` Wulf C. Krueger
2008-01-05 19:32                         ` Carsten Lohrke
2008-01-05 23:06                       ` Peter Volkov
2008-01-06  4:15                         ` Matthias Langer
2008-01-06  0:17                       ` Ryan Hill
2008-01-06  1:06                         ` Ryan Hill
2008-01-06  2:38                         ` Luca Barbato
2008-01-06 10:40                         ` Peter Volkov [this message]
2008-01-06  2:46                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-06 12:04                         ` Luca Barbato
2008-01-06 13:33                           ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2008-01-06 14:01                             ` Luca Barbato
2008-01-09 12:13   ` [gentoo-dev] " Fernando J. Pereda
2008-01-09 14:25     ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-09 15:27       ` Fernando J. Pereda
2008-01-09 17:11         ` Richard Freeman
2008-01-09 17:18           ` Fernando J. Pereda
2008-01-09 17:18           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 19:54       ` Chris Gianelloni
2008-01-09 21:10         ` Caleb Tennis
2008-01-10  6:56         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-09 20:23     ` Peter Volkov
2008-01-10  3:10 ` [gentoo-dev] Of Mips and Devs [Was: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January] Kumba
2008-01-10  6:34   ` Mike Frysinger
2008-01-10  8:01     ` Alin Năstac
2008-01-10  8:34       ` Mike Frysinger
2008-01-11  5:34     ` Kumba
2008-01-11  7:04       ` Stuart Longland
2008-01-11  7:43         ` Alec Warner
2008-01-11  9:33       ` Mike Frysinger
2008-01-10  7:12   ` [gentoo-dev] " Markus Ullmann
2008-01-10 23:47   ` Ryan Hill
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-01-01  5:30 [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January Mike Frysinger
2006-01-02 18:14 ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-02 18:33   ` Lares Moreau
2006-01-02 18:50     ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-02 19:03       ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-02 19:49         ` Grobian
2006-01-02 20:12           ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-02 20:46             ` Grobian
2006-01-02 21:03               ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-02 21:52                 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-01-03 11:08                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-03 13:34                     ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-01-03 22:04                       ` Mark Loeser
2006-01-03 22:38                         ` Lance Albertson
2006-01-04  0:36                           ` Mark Loeser
2006-01-06 17:48                           ` Marius Mauch
2006-01-05 14:59       ` [gentoo-dev] " Stuart Herbert
2006-01-05 15:46         ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-01-05 19:30           ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-01-06  8:37             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-06  9:59               ` Jon Portnoy
2006-01-06 18:46                 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-01-06 11:23               ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-01-05  4:31   ` [gentoo-dev] " Kurt Lieber
2006-01-05  5:39     ` Alec Warner
2006-01-05  6:05       ` Corey Shields
2006-01-05  6:49         ` Brian Harring
2006-01-05 10:26           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-01-05 10:36             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-01-05 19:03             ` Carsten Lohrke

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