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From: Peter Volkov <pva@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI inside ebuild filename (.EAPI-ebuild of different?)
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:50:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1198155002.20183.63.camel@camobap> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200712172320.01988.peper@gentoo.org>

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While it's may be a good idea to set EAPI inside filename and if we ever
decide on this, consider different implementation.

I really dislike idea of EAPI-suffixed extensions. It's easier for me
(and I think for others too) to differentiate ebuilds between other
files in directory when ebuild files have common suffix. We are people
so we should simplify things that are not hidden under the hood, like
this...

This hack is just to solve portage problem which does not ignore .ebuild
files which does not follow pkg-ver.ebuild syntax and suggested solution
is not the only solution. Other possibilities are, which I like more:

1. USE pkg-ver.<EAPI>-ebuild

2. USE pkg-ver${EAPITAG}<EAPI>.ebuild
   Here ${EAPITAG} is string to simplify parsing <EAPI> from
   version. E.g. EAPITAG could be _eapi or EAPI or something
   else.

Although second solution does not solve the problem with portage I like
it more, as we all have habit to look at .ebuild suffix. But this is
different problem. Once we define good NEW format for filename it's
possible to decide on transition path which allows us to use eapi right
now. E.g. start using this format only with .ebuild-ng suffix and after
three years pass it's possible to rename all .ebuild-ng into .ebuild.


And another idea which was already mentioned somewhere in this thread. I
think .ebuild should be written only in BASH. Again if we ever decide to
use ebuilds with different syntax we should use different suffix.

-- 
Peter.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-12-20 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 299+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-17 22:20 [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI) Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-17 23:40 ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-17 23:52   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18  0:10 ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-18  0:18   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18  0:30     ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-18  0:39       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18  9:36         ` Fabian Groffen
2007-12-18 10:03           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18 20:38             ` Fabian Groffen
2007-12-18 23:59               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-19 14:18                 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-19 20:27                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18  0:36     ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-18  0:43       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18  1:05         ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-18  1:14           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18  1:46             ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-18 15:16               ` Marius Mauch
2007-12-18  1:01       ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-18 21:08         ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-18 21:32           ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-18 21:41             ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-12-19  0:09           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-19  7:12             ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-19 10:32               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20  5:46                 ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-20  5:53                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 13:08                     ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-20 15:57                       ` Michael Haubenwallner
2007-12-21  0:34                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 13:43                           ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-21 13:59                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22  1:53                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-12-22  6:35                                 ` Steve Long
2007-12-22  7:12                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22  9:43                                     ` Duncan
2007-12-22 10:05                                   ` Duncan
2007-12-23 21:01                                     ` Steve Long
2007-12-24  8:31                                       ` Duncan
2007-12-21 14:01                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Anderson
2007-12-18 17:05       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-18 17:21         ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-19 10:26           ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-19 10:29             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-19 11:05               ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-19 11:16                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20  0:07                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-20  3:50                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 12:48                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-20 13:06                         ` Richard Brown
2007-12-20 13:12                         ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-20 13:18                           ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-21  0:46                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 13:31                           ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-21 18:52                             ` Petteri Räty
2007-12-22  0:59                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-22  7:25                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22  8:55                               ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22  9:07                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 10:01                                   ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 11:44                                     ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-22 15:12                                       ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-22 17:26                                         ` Zhang Le
2007-12-23  4:46                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 17:32                                       ` Zhang Le
2007-12-20  8:44                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-20 18:27                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Zhang Le
2007-12-21  0:32                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
     [not found]                       ` <476B29A0.8090404@gentoo.org>
2007-12-21  3:04                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  3:43                           ` Zhang Le
2007-12-20 18:45                   ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  0:49                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  2:14                       ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-21  2:23                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
     [not found]                           ` <476B2A54.8030606@gentoo.org>
2007-12-21  2:56                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  3:51                               ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  3:59                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  4:20                                   ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  4:26                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22  8:49                                       ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22  9:08                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 10:05                                           ` Zhang Le
2007-12-24  1:22                                           ` Luca Barbato
     [not found]                           ` <476B2884.1020700@gentoo.org>
2007-12-21  2:57                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 13:29                       ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-21 13:41                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-19 20:03                 ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-19 23:59                   ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-20  0:06                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20  1:28                       ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-20  3:54                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20  9:43                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-12-20  9:57                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 14:08                               ` Richard Freeman
2007-12-20 18:23                               ` Zhang Le
2007-12-20 13:56                           ` [gentoo-dev] Re: " Richard Freeman
2007-12-21  0:50                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18  7:17     ` [gentoo-dev] " Ulrich Mueller
2007-12-18  7:29       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18 21:30         ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-18 13:57       ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-18 14:24         ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-18 17:37           ` Ulrich Mueller
2007-12-18 17:53             ` Santiago M. Mola
2007-12-18 18:20               ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-18 19:41                 ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-12-20  8:22                 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2007-12-18 17:56             ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-18 19:45               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-12-18 19:59                 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-19 14:27                   ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-19 14:44                     ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-19 15:17                       ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-19 15:40                         ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-19 16:03                           ` Jim Ramsay
2007-12-19 16:50                             ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-20  9:05                               ` Duncan
2007-12-18 20:11                 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-18 23:50                   ` Duncan
2007-12-19  0:06                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-19  9:28                       ` Duncan
2007-12-18 18:26             ` [gentoo-dev] " Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-18 18:51               ` Ulrich Mueller
2007-12-18 20:08                 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-18 20:27                   ` Fabian Groffen
2007-12-18  4:41 ` Jeroen Roovers
2007-12-18  4:46   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18  5:27     ` Jeroen Roovers
2007-12-18  5:52       ` Jeroen Roovers
2007-12-18  9:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-12-18 10:18   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-18 15:45 ` [gentoo-dev] " Marius Mauch
2007-12-19  0:07   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-19 13:54     ` Marius Mauch
2007-12-19 14:37 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-19 15:00   ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-19 15:15     ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-19 16:05   ` Jim Ramsay
2007-12-20 18:52     ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  0:51       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  2:59         ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  3:07           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  9:58             ` Thomas Pani
2007-12-21 10:01               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 13:29                 ` Rémi Cardona
2007-12-21 13:38                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-24 11:19                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-24 12:39                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22  8:05               ` [gentoo-dev] " Zhang Le
2007-12-20  0:38 ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-12-20  2:31   ` EAPI definition Was: " Luca Barbato
2007-12-20  4:02     ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-12-20  6:52       ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-20  4:07     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20  7:10       ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-27 19:16         ` Marius Mauch
2007-12-27 22:26           ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-27 22:40             ` Doug Klima
2007-12-28  6:57               ` Sven Vermeulen
2007-12-28 12:03             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-28 12:25               ` Santiago M. Mola
2007-12-28 12:28                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-28 12:45                   ` Santiago M. Mola
2007-12-28 23:34                   ` [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI definition Was: " Duncan
2007-12-31 14:48                     ` Marius Mauch
2007-12-31 14:46               ` EAPI definition Was: [gentoo-dev] " Marius Mauch
2007-12-31 15:09                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-01-01  4:50                   ` Marius Mauch
2008-01-01 15:42                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 10:37       ` Thomas Pani
2007-12-20 10:42         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 11:06           ` Thomas Pani
2007-12-20 11:12             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 13:54               ` Denis Dupeyron
2007-12-21  0:57                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  2:46                   ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-21  3:05                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  3:26                       ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  3:32                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  3:54                           ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  3:09                   ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  3:17                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  3:38                       ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  3:41                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  3:56                           ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  4:02                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  4:25                               ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21 15:31                                 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-22  8:47                                   ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22  9:11                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22  9:53                                       ` Simon Cooper
2007-12-22 10:02                                         ` Jan Kundrát
2007-12-22 12:45                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 15:23                                           ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-23  5:03                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-23 13:54                                               ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2007-12-24  5:58                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-28  5:43                                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-20 18:29               ` [gentoo-dev] " Zhang Le
2007-12-21 12:34                 ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-22  3:19                   ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-22  7:13                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 11:03                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-12-22 14:50                         ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-22 17:13                           ` Duncan
2007-12-24  1:39                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2007-12-22  7:00                   ` Jeroen Roovers
2007-12-22  8:09                   ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22  8:11                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22  8:58                       ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 11:53                         ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-22 17:14                           ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 18:43                             ` Fernando J. Pereda
2007-12-22 19:47                               ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 14:16                     ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-20 13:02             ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-12-20 15:20               ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-20 16:08                 ` Rémi Cardona
2007-12-20 16:22                   ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-20 17:56                     ` Doug Klima
2007-12-21 14:53                     ` Michael Haubenwallner
2007-12-22  3:21                       ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-27 19:48                     ` Marius Mauch
2007-12-27 20:28                       ` Michael Haubenwallner
2007-12-27 20:36                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20 16:14               ` Thomas Pani
2007-12-20 21:33                 ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-21  0:54                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  2:17                     ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-21  2:26                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  2:41                         ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-21  2:53                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 15:41                           ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-22  1:19                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-22  3:24                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2007-12-22  7:14                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-23  2:05                                 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-22  9:01                               ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22  9:12                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22  9:37                                   ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 12:48                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  3:34                         ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  3:36                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  4:03                             ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  4:06                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  4:27                                 ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  4:32                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 10:09                                     ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 11:36                                       ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 11:39                                         ` Jan Kundrát
2007-12-22 17:58                                           ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  4:46                         ` Josh Saddler
2007-12-21  4:53                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  6:24                             ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-21  6:34                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 10:18                                 ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-21 10:27                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 15:45                           ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-21 15:40                   ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-21 16:37                     ` Joe Peterson
2007-12-22  7:15                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21 15:35                 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-20 19:01     ` EAPI definition Was: " Zhang Le
2007-12-20 19:30       ` Santiago M. Mola
2007-12-20 20:27         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI definition Was: " Markus Ullmann
2007-12-20 22:46           ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-12-21  3:23         ` EAPI definition Was: [gentoo-dev] " Zhang Le
2007-12-21  3:28           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-21  4:15             ` Zhang Le
2007-12-21  4:19               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22  0:23               ` [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI definition Was: " Duncan
2007-12-21 15:47       ` EAPI definition Was: [gentoo-dev] " Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-22  9:49         ` Zhang Le
2007-12-22 12:43           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 18:06             ` Zhang Le
2007-12-20  8:20   ` Denis Dupeyron
2007-12-20  8:29   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-20  9:19     ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-12-20  9:25       ` Petteri Räty
2007-12-20 19:21         ` Josh Saddler
2007-12-20  9:43       ` Jan Kundrát
2007-12-20 10:09         ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-12-20 10:26           ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2007-12-20 20:06             ` Donnie Berkholz
2007-12-20 10:30           ` Jan Kundrát
2007-12-20 12:48           ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-12-20  9:55       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-27 20:15         ` Marius Mauch
2007-12-20 13:36   ` Luca Barbato
2007-12-20 12:50 ` Peter Volkov [this message]
2007-12-31 14:38   ` [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI inside ebuild filename (.EAPI-ebuild of different?) Marius Mauch
2007-12-22  1:41 ` [gentoo-dev] [GLEP 55] EAPI subdirectories instead of file name suffixes Petteri Räty
2007-12-22  2:26   ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-22  6:46     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-12-22  9:50     ` [gentoo-dev] " Jan Kundrát
2007-12-22 15:29       ` Piotr Jaroszyński
2007-12-22  7:09   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-12-22 11:59     ` Fernando J. Pereda

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