From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IpBGN-0007oO-RG for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:21:48 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.2/8.14.0) with SMTP id lA5NKwl9011482; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:20:58 GMT Received: from mail.marples.name (rsm.demon.co.uk [80.177.111.50]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.2/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lA5NJ64N009158 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:19:06 GMT Received: from [10.73.1.30] (uberpc.marples.name [10.73.1.30]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.marples.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4281900FD for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:19:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] POSIX shell and "portable" From: Roy Marples To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200711051521.07840.vapier@gentoo.org> References: <472B29B9.50002@gentoo.org> <1194257626.4196.9.camel@uberlaptop.marples.name> <1194268910.6977.86.camel@sapc154> <200711051521.07840.vapier@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Gentoo Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:18:43 +0000 Message-Id: <1194304723.2906.47.camel@uberpc.marples.name> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 1a717e16-88d5-41f0-9af2-fc664bcf4044 X-Archives-Hash: d7fe7d08f218fe7351e44f072b308b24 On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 16:21 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > we want the installed environment to be portable, not the build environment. > i do not see any benefit from forcing the build environment to be pure POSIX > compliant and i see many many detrimental problems. Oh I don't know. Imagine how cool it would be for starting a new port. 1) Install PM 2) Wang on a portage tree 3) emerge ready to go Obviously it's not quite that simple as portage requires python and pkgcore require python, paludis requires tr1-whatever libs - but that's the restriction of the PM used. Maybe one day Gentoo will have a PM that doesn't require any of that and is just written in C and sh, using POSIX libc where it can. But enough pipe dreaming :) Thanks Roy -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list