From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 932CA158087 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 10:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90D602BC06F; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 10:30:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.web.de (mout.web.de [212.227.15.4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 808EF2BC002 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 10:30:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1642760995; bh=pGNDWGdagOSP4b/BX3nTns7jHAnOpbIKsnkVzp1e9ZU=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=nDu46pI6iy5KsWENGXSxfDThf5ea6AQ6wsL4GBZRN/3n/1Y3i30RuBoxu43P79wyx 6pmo7TxmYrOF7hbpxFPxfh5/OjvfZp/o2/pgO9S/MotRsa5UQkPmTS+TI/cio2Nhhn L05SpQ/NnF3acpEDSDDj+RvIYFm3HY3Ta71WvOTs= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from big.localnet ([93.238.1.98]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb006 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mo6Jz-1mUgfI1aXr-00pEqN for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 11:29:55 +0100 From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?B=F6hm?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] making rust-bin ordered first in virtual/rust Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 11:29:54 +0100 Message-ID: <11906776.O9o76ZdvQC@big> In-Reply-To: References: <5b3e3adb-5582-ef42-4e28-79825d5d29d1@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:vkvm99VuL9sWmnwlJrYEpvQHl0HjjlvO04vhh9LSUBvYdZ6k9Im aaKwXobt+35RT+KW7QJFaCPlhcm+hhpOrEkcNN3W1zf466vNf68wi64vdsrae1FKVbry0VB BfXmnWW9tI0me1Bnp74xyP5NMvsdnnY8yxUmEPLoMvGRCQf5DYcWr7Ktkt39JkvBYbpW2dr 0IsfoqNHcfm8x39ymc0wg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:H3uoZBC6PCM=:BC8Q44CNUjAYI2kgP/PJqk i1ybxMDK3AT7OE1LyhHRTGYo+i3uCQGWDy92Uocdb3EqrzIK0198xyfU/jUVC6SugFfgb2WH0 hPk/A7GvXeUMIKzfmvFzhsRVDWBFPGuPMvyvdWZUsbFTuXY6n/QOCaJicyFkbf7LFAA4IhM7P 1Amo3GW6dEfzq3pUiLBz6wJRWxXwsB99e6nS6cOND+a7MVZh4k9TFa6lIRvO1z4WYO+g7zV03 t/+CXCRXW1eZIrLz0gYPdC++7ZymQeL8jzHXU7zUrHLe/4bpmyQEN3Y/Ml4QzSUQnQkry1htn iNu++VtHhYArlAMObNmALP7Z/7ARaYfQ4efDvxknKRhCglJwnYfwrJEzphV9Oxluo25OOt4yU B/8J/DSRiYo0Kc+0jrW9/dYoEQEZnaMHnLSBQieKllbbsiCcvK39JJ6SAmVe9UJqfM0uJsj8Q cz0m8nGvSvUyq2DzaA23WshMB/A5CWLQQJ96pw0jKZUaSeW5K92KGoKHSbP5NY4Zoc1oMMs0u +pqRBSivkYy8E8IXA8yw0nnFi693myJiYXrnLynxX7K/WUPA7sxaCxkcI1gjB67QpBrSJNXWF MzKMkwueX6fL2ZuUwmqMwGMiDi19FnI4HxZ8UI1EasjHdIASM/622PS0dOhLD/4jksfhWrKm3 bKy6sUDDOcKwDKXQVtKjdJDstiW14qusE/gXvHIEc86KrE8EtkuTsOnfDv9TX6kvhA4Cozc/V 6Q7ACJUmAv1OImicdi6Oase+2ohIQapRwxpOGpM+uTO1M2IrECgOhjGzLTHp5EhKvfjcRl7hu ZJsbz1O1gJmIgCnQvY4BD9NJLvvViZLNHub5+6PRCqi/Jflb1MFecVkTVDEIurWT1A43rsURC dBnUTaoXJaJFQ7eiqk7zriPxmv4IkgBlNby2UNzzwnS8hWk1BGxD7T1EGvbWVM+7KW5qNhGFL 95FuSur6+50cke7m5qyZhyhZInGM4+BDv7WetiaauqHpN/PCX2BB5A01fSG5LsiQBZiOzhjGg ff36z71aNmf4i0iIctQsQE3A3kQeHjax4V6hufKVQb3qER9WdjxPdP6yVqgg/VtsDSjZPbDOr OJ7246M4CzuLu0= X-Archives-Salt: db5c9350-972d-4170-8446-6ab1dc2e958d X-Archives-Hash: b285007563ea8224215c4af55c40b5db Dear Developers, I like your goal to make Gentoo more user-friendly but Gentoo is a source based distribution and I dont like binary versions as a default. My questi= on is: Who has problems with "big" packages like rust or firefox ? Only User which doesnt know there is a binary version. So, in every case w= e need to describe it in our AMD64 handbook. Am Freitag, 21. Januar 2022, 10:22:14 CET schrieb Mart Raudsepp: > Anyhow, my vote is to default to rust-bin - people can easily be told > to move to dev-lang/rust at their convenience and then explicitly > depclean rust-bin. I am dreaming about another solution where this is not needed: In our /etc/portage/make.conf we can have a new: MAKEBIN=3D"rust firefox" ... resulting in an automatic switch to the binary version of all included packages ... of course this is also as recommendation in our AMD64 handboo= k (with a clue to delete it if not desired). Kind reagards, Peter