[gentoo-dev] Unpermitted distribution of Gentoo shirts and mugs?

[gentoo-dev] Unpermitted distribution of Gentoo shirts and mugs?

[Samuli Suominen]

User posted me today these:

http://www.spreadshirt.net/shop.php?article_id=2219416&view_id=235
http://www.spreadshirt.net/shop.php?op=article&article_id=311913&p=1

Seems they are making money with products that has Gentoo or Gentoo
Linux in them, including our logo.

Is that legal?

- drac
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[gentoo-dev] Re: Unpermitted distribution of Gentoo shirts and mugs?

[Samuli Suominen]

On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:58:27 +0300
Samuli Suominen <drac@gentoo.org> wrote:

> User posted me today these:
> 
> http://www.spreadshirt.net/shop.php?article_id=2219416&view_id=235
> http://www.spreadshirt.net/shop.php?op=article&article_id=311913&p=1
> 
> Seems they are making money with products that has Gentoo or Gentoo
> Linux in them, including our logo.
> 
> Is that legal?
> 
> - drac

http://www.cafepress.com/buy/gentoo/-/cfpt2_/copt_/cfpt_/source_searchBox/x_0/y_0

?!
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Unpermitted distribution of Gentoo shirts and mugs?

[René 'Necoro' Neumann]

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Samuli Suominen schrieb:
> User posted me today these:
> 
> http://www.spreadshirt.net/shop.php?article_id=2219416&view_id=235
> http://www.spreadshirt.net/shop.php?op=article&article_id=311913&p=1
> 
> Seems they are making money with products that has Gentoo or Gentoo
> Linux in them, including our logo.
> 
> Is that legal?
> 
> - drac

This is the shop of gentoo.de which holds the trademark in Germany :) So
 this should be ok :)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Unpermitted distribution of Gentoo shirts and mugs?

[Arturo Garcia]

On Saturday 15 Sep 2007, René 'Necoro' Neumann wrote:
> This is the shop of gentoo.de which holds the trademark in Germany :) So
>  this should be ok :)
Can someone confirm?
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unpermitted distribution of Gentoo shirts and mugs?

[Robert Buchholz]

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On Saturday, 15. September 2007, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> > Is that legal?
> >
> > - drac
>
> http://www.cafepress.com/buy/gentoo/-/cfpt2_/copt_/cfpt_/source_searc
>hBox/x_0/y_0

CafePress is the official gentoo.org store, see:
http://www.cafepress.com/officialgentoo/

I guess that includes our stuff popping up in their search results.

Also, I believe -dev is not the appropriate place for this (project 
ftw!).

Regards,
Robert

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Unpermitted distribution of Gentoo shirts and mugs?

[Chris Gianelloni]

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On Sat, 2007-09-15 at 11:58 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> 
> Is that legal? 

All legal questions should *always* be directed to the trustees.

To put it simply, anyone selling anything with a Gentoo logo on it is
breaking the law, unless they are selling a Gentoo Linux CD.  In other
words, the only allowed commercial usage is when talking *about* Gentoo.

The Friends of Gentoo e.V. have said repeatedly that they have some
agreement with the Foundation.  As a trustee, I never saw any such
evidence.  Any licenses given out by the Foundation for usage of our
logos and name would need to be done in writing to have even the
slightest chance of being legal.  If they have documentation, I would
like to see it.

As for Cafepress and such, I check it every so often and report anyone
using our logos and they take them down.  I have a couple places on my
radar, I just haven't gotten all of the paperwork finished and sent in.

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Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams
Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee
Gentoo Foundation

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unpermitted distribution of Gentoo shirts and mugs?

[Chris Gianelloni]

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On Sat, 2007-09-15 at 12:22 +0200, Robert Buchholz wrote:
> Also, I believe -dev is not the appropriate place for this (project 
> ftw!).

Ehh... no... gentoo-nfp is where things involving our legal entity
belongs.

This sort of thread 100% absolutely does *not* belong on this list, nor
project.

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Gentoo Foundation

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Unpermitted distribution of Gentoo shirts and mugs?

[Christian Hartmann]

Am Samstag 15 September 2007 20:46:31 schrieb Chris Gianelloni:
> The Friends of Gentoo e.V. have said repeatedly that they have some
> agreement with the Foundation.

Said who?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Unpermitted distribution of Gentoo shirts and mugs?

[Chris Gianelloni]

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On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 12:34 +0200, Christian Hartmann wrote:
> Am Samstag 15 September 2007 20:46:31 schrieb Chris Gianelloni:
> > The Friends of Gentoo e.V. have said repeatedly that they have some
> > agreement with the Foundation.
> 
> Said who?

Are you saying they do not?

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Gentoo Foundation

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