From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1IBeP9-00034l-VC for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:23:28 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6JMM5v2011609; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:22:05 GMT Received: from mail.twi-31o2.org (c-24-6-168-204.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.168.204]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6JMK7l5009391 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:20:08 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.twi-31o2.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44CB22482F0 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:08:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at twi-31o2.org Received: from mail.twi-31o2.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gravity.twi-31o2.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aYWpWQ31W68J for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.100.28] (dsl211-165-131.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [74.211.165.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.twi-31o2.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75E4248079 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:07:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Improving developer/user communication (was Re: net-im/pidgin protocols) From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <469FDCDA.3090309@bellsouth.net> References: <469F1C56.6070600@gentoo.org> <469F372A.9060107@gentoo.org> <469F3A9F.7030004@gentoo.org> <46A0DE7B.6030009@gentoo.org> <469F9271.9080908@gentoo.org> <469FC366.8020304@gmail.com> <20070719212506.09a52e94@snowflake> <469FCD7A.1090506@bellsouth.net> <20070719215933.014b21cd@snowflake> <469FD60B.7030206@gmail.com> <469FDCDA.3090309@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-SRUjw0CgZ5ffLNKiFRNo" Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:18:59 -0700 Message-Id: <1184883539.8459.19.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 X-Archives-Salt: eb1d3b4e-ee66-4e04-b450-7535d9548ef6 X-Archives-Hash: 933694c8f20d178a69830bc129952031 --=-SRUjw0CgZ5ffLNKiFRNo Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 16:51 -0500, Dale wrote: > Now the new deal is meeting the same resistance just like the proctors > and I suspect it will fail too. Gentoo needs to listen to the people.=20 No. Gentoo needs to make intelligent decisions, whether it comes from a single individual or an army doesn't matter. A good idea is a good idea. The main thing that we need to do is keep admitting when we're wrong. If we're wrong, admit it and fix it. It really is that simple. Nobody expects us to be perfect, but we should still strive for it. At the same time, I think sometimes taking action, even the wrong one, is better than sitting around postulating endlessly. I would much rather see something done, found to be wrong, reverted, and replaced over time than nothing be done at all because nobody can agree 100% on the "right" way to do it. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation --=-SRUjw0CgZ5ffLNKiFRNo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGn+NTkT4lNIS36YERAnsPAJ9K4myNxpDMcISv9pBnx+x5oIfp5gCgnHor TpnWn5lRJLfuMrM0yapCQ2A= =TrGw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-SRUjw0CgZ5ffLNKiFRNo-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list