From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1IAYxR-00087y-Be for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:22:21 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6GMLMLT019059; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:21:22 GMT Received: from mail.twi-31o2.org (c-24-6-168-204.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.168.204]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6GMJ3h8016135 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:19:04 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.twi-31o2.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644F72480E2 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:07:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at twi-31o2.org Received: from mail.twi-31o2.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gravity.twi-31o2.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RvGd8kXDM9q8 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:06:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.100.31] (dsl211-165-131.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [74.211.165.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.twi-31o2.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF917248079 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:06:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <469B666C.2000400@klever.net> References: <46968E00.4070202@gentoo.org> <1184536747.18353.55.camel@sputnik886.lnet> <469B0DC2.2070903@gentoo.org> <469B5A4E.7090406@gentoo.org> <469B666C.2000400@klever.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-phSMbf3/8pU6sS1xoHBx" Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:17:57 -0700 Message-Id: <1184624277.7942.19.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 X-Archives-Salt: 1d18f2a4-e75e-4c4e-8a2c-a981482077c1 X-Archives-Hash: 193e92542b06b5fd2e9817b9f9ca48e5 --=-phSMbf3/8pU6sS1xoHBx Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 14:37 +0200, Michael Krelin wrote: > >=20 > > That was my thought as well. We (the developers) owe nothing to the=20 > > community at large. We are volunteers, and if we want to treat Gentoo a= s=20 > > our own personal toy (which we currently aren't), then so be it. > >=20 >=20 > Of course Gentoo owes to the community a lot. A lot of its progress,=20 > progress of the applications included, etc. But it's not a matter of=20 > obligation. Being nice to others is a nice thing to do and a way to look=20 > better too. The opposite is... well, the opposite. Well said... Remember that if we really didn't give a crap about the community, we wouldn't be writing open source software. If we didn't care about the users, we wouldn't release our software to them. We wouldn't have a bug tracker, forums, and all the other things that we do and maintain solely for the community. To phrase it in another manner that might make more sense, any given developer is going to be more interested in fixing/changing what is important or interesting to them than what some group of users wants them to fix/change. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation --=-phSMbf3/8pU6sS1xoHBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGm+6VkT4lNIS36YERAlOJAJwK3HbIqdcXIhxVM/dv1f1EI6odSgCgiGdq 21XnTSFatUx/CUgqzXTMi/Y= =FNug -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-phSMbf3/8pU6sS1xoHBx-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list