From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1I9R9V-0007N1-L0 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:50:10 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6DJnABg022733; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:49:10 GMT Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6DJkxWi020153 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:46:59 GMT Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05CAF9EB0 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:46:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web5.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.214]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:46:58 -0400 Received: by web5.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 951F1244BD; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:46:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1184356016.6766.1200057851@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: l6n5aLSpmHH+bQqh9Pa+ZSELhTZw3J2TGlr9IwghDYaf 1184356016 From: "Thomas Tuttle" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface References: <46968E00.4070202@gentoo.org> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Smoother moderation scheme? (was: ML changes) In-Reply-To: <46968E00.4070202@gentoo.org> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:46:56 -0400 X-Archives-Salt: 888d612f-d206-4e55-93cb-73ae35fb3252 X-Archives-Hash: bee63df484118f507d25a1f7be81b2c1 Okay, I thought of a potential modification that might make this a little more friendly. Moderate all non-dev posts by default, but pass their posts after a certain time period if nobody checks the queue, and put a few people in charge of whitelisting positive contributors. If whitelisted posters create problems, move them to another moderated state where their posts are not automatically approved and they do not automatically gain whitelisted status. This way, anyone who has productive things to say can contribute easily, because of the automatic posting. Regular, useful posters will soon be freed from this delay, and will be able to post freely. But anyone who causes noise can be sentenced to permanent moderation (i.e., their posts always have to be approved), and anyone who causes trouble can be blacklisted. Here's a detailed explanation: If a poster is a dev (or an arch tester?), they start in the Whitelisted state, otherwise start in the Lightly Moderated state. In the following parts, "spam" is a post that, unquestionably, as a matter of solid fact, is completely and *intentionally* off-topic, or a flame/troll/etc... that does not also contain any useful discussion of Gentoo. Note that this does *not* include users who accidentally post to the wrong list, or on-topic but nasty messages. "annoying things" are things like "Me too!" posts or threads that wander off-topic. Basically, "spam" is things that are totally worthless, and "annoying things" are things that are somewhat on-topic but inappropriate for other reasons. In the Lightly Moderated state: All posts are moderated. If a post is not approved within a certain amount of time, it is automatically posted. If the poster: 1. posts a certain number of good messages, 2. is approved by a dev, or 3. becomes a dev, Then they go to the Whitelisted state. If the poster posts spam: They go to the Blacklisted state. In the Heavily Moderated state: All posts are moderated. Posts do not automatically pass through after a delay. If the poster: 1. posts a certain number of good messages, 2. is approved by a dev, or 3. becomes a dev, Then they go to the Whitelisted state. If the poster posts spam: They go to the Blacklisted state. In the Whitelisted state: All posts are passed through automatically. If the poster posts annoying things: They will go to the Heavily Moderated state. If the poster posts spam: They go to the Blacklisted state. In the Blacklisted state: All posts are dumped, period. The poster might return to the Heavily Moderated state after a delay. Perhaps the delay doubles each time the poster is sent to the Blacklisted state. The only people eligible to moderate are devs in the whitelisted state. Questions? Comments? Thanks, Thomas Tuttle -- Thomas Tuttle - ttuttle@ttuttle.net - http://www.ttuttle.net/ -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list