From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1I9PFP-0004qs-88 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:48:07 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6DHkVt7000863; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:46:31 GMT Received: from mail.twi-31o2.org (c-24-6-168-204.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.168.204]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6DHgBcq026473 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:42:11 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.twi-31o2.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF002480E2 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:30:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at twi-31o2.org Received: from mail.twi-31o2.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gravity.twi-31o2.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E7rYQfldHgQG for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:29:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.100.22] (dsl211-165-131.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [74.211.165.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.twi-31o2.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F65A248079 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:29:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20070713083913.4fea4f87@localhost> References: <46968E00.4070202@gentoo.org> <1184308886.9892.48.camel@tuxhugs> <1184310715.26227.29.camel@localhost> <20070713083913.4fea4f87@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-/7Q1dbj1XYhC3sDKNLyH" Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:41:06 -0700 Message-Id: <1184348466.8347.38.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 X-Archives-Salt: 3b9b9289-b183-4749-8c06-ab1be3af4e50 X-Archives-Hash: 83c03648594e058bd0cdd14d40efd4cb --=-/7Q1dbj1XYhC3sDKNLyH Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 08:39 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > I just read an article about this [1]. To summarize, in a volunteer > community, there needs to be more people enforcing the rules than > people breaking them. A small group of proctors doesn't work -- we need > everyone to join in to enforce our standards when someone violates them. This was actually one of my primary motivators for calling for the disbanding of the proctors, as KingTaco and I had already had several discussions on the new list and I felt having a larger pool of potential "proctors" helped us out much more than the small group ever could do. Plus, the Council failed the proctors. I don't mean by disbanding them. Hopefully, they'll see in time that it was for the best. We failed them by not providing a better direction and clearer goals *before* we sent them on their way. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation --=-/7Q1dbj1XYhC3sDKNLyH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGl7kykT4lNIS36YERAi+HAJoCkak8kUf88vvPjvADpFZ2wUj8ogCghOqb GRGdSqHXmIXagkwN+gjMuRI= =JSHk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-/7Q1dbj1XYhC3sDKNLyH-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list