From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1I9NF4-0005EW-Ta for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:39:39 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6DFbNNb008128; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:37:23 GMT Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6DFYJAA003905 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:34:20 GMT Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C0F99E5 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:34:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web5.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.214]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:34:19 -0400 Received: by web5.messagingengine.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id C4E8123F6A; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:34:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1184340857.18595.1200020695@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: OQJDekGh/xP0jHS5YkyZbZecqN4VrDYfbky7VaVYYDLJ 1184340857 From: "Thomas Tuttle" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface References: <46968E00.4070202@gentoo.org> <1184308886.9892.48.camel@tuxhugs> <1184310715.26227.29.camel@localhost> <1184336040.32429.6.camel@wlt.obsidian-studios.com> <20070713152631.29c2329d@snowflake> <1184339318.32429.19.camel@wlt.obsidian-studios.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes In-Reply-To: <1184339318.32429.19.camel@wlt.obsidian-studios.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:34:17 -0400 X-Archives-Salt: b235422a-8f9c-4ab9-9729-150d8c91c269 X-Archives-Hash: eb922c03216face1676fd99de99170e8 On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:08:38 -0400, "William L. Thomson Jr." said: > On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 15:26 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:14:00 -0400 > > "William L. Thomson Jr." wrote: > > > > > > What makes a developer only -dev list any different than developers > > > only having a voice on #gentoo-dev? > > > > The former is where development discussion is supposed to take place. > > The latter is a social convenience. > > For some. Most all of my development communication is primarily done via > IRC. Email is rarely used, and from what I have seen else where. This > seems to be the main trend IMHO. Granted for big issues discussed over > time, the ML is a better resource than IRC. Personally, I prefer quicker mechanisms to slower ones, but some people dislike real-time communications because they can interrupt their work constantly. I think what's important is not the signal-to-noise ratio, per se, but the relevant-to-irrelevant ratio. To me, it makes no difference whether the traffic that I don't care about is spam/trolls or just discussion of another project. So I'd support -dev being for coordination of core development and -project being for other things, so that people can read all of -dev easily and simply pay attention to only what they want to see on -project. But I see no reason to moderate either -- #-dev is moderated because IRC is an easy medium to disrupt. It's a lot harder to wander on to a mailing list and start trolling, and it's easier to block. Just my $0.02, Thomas Tuttle -- Thomas Tuttle - ttuttle@ttuttle.net - http://www.ttuttle.net/ -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list