From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1I9ElY-00004F-EW for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:36:36 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6D6YphU026963; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:34:51 GMT Received: from relay03.pair.com (relay03.pair.com [209.68.5.17]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6D6VfFU022421 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:31:41 GMT Received: (qmail 65280 invoked by uid 0); 13 Jul 2007 06:31:38 -0000 Received: from 80.7.39.179 (HELO ?192.168.11.17?) (80.7.39.179) by relay03.pair.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 2007 06:31:38 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 80.7.39.179 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes From: Andrew Cowie To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <1184281506.29731.21.camel@wlt.obsidian-studios.com> References: <46968E00.4070202@gentoo.org> <73967b650707121331n1482e7d8k926d925d38ba98fb@mail.gmail.com> <1184281506.29731.21.camel@wlt.obsidian-studios.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-qd9QIY17Uis0gk7D6Eme" Organization: Operational Dynamics Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:31:37 +0100 Message-Id: <1184308297.27094.12.camel@procyon.operationaldynamics.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.2 X-Archives-Salt: 835bab35-c816-433f-b735-bbd32fe04ffc X-Archives-Hash: ace34761513edfbc4e8fd7656f80f1c2 --=-qd9QIY17Uis0gk7D6Eme Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 19:05 -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > I think the idea is being taken the wrong way. Why would you think you > were second class? Because this is where the development of the Gentoo Linux distribution is discussed. I'm not a Gentoo dev either, but I manage to make my own little contributions here and there. I guess that's why I'm speaking at the Gentoo UK conference tomorrow. There is no point in being subscribed to a community list if you can't participate in the discussions. I'm with Brian. If this goes through, I shall be moving on. On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 17:43 -0400, Seemant Kulleen wrote: > My only comment for now is: why not just make -core read only, but > public, and leave -dev as it is? That way we don't have to muck around > with deprecating lists and introducing new ones. Hear, hear. On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 15:43 -0700, Chrissy Fullam wrote: > The moderation of -dev would be done by any developer who saw fit to rele= ase > the email sent from a non-dev. The world over, compulsory moderation of otherwise public lists stifles conversation. Typically it is weeks, not hours, before someone gets around to glancing at the awaiting-approval queue, with the result that even if a message is approved it appears in the thread long after the issue was raised and far to late to be a useful contribution to the discussion. Open Source is about lowering barriers to entry and encouraging broader participation. You don't want to go this way. AfC London --=20 Andrew Frederick Cowie Managing Director Operational Dynamics Consulting, Pty Ltd Sydney +61 2 9977 6866 New York +1 646 472 5054 Toronto +1 647 477 5603 London +44 207 1019201 We are an operations engineering consultancy focusing on strategy, organizational architecture, systems review, and change management procedures: enabling successful use of open source in mission A. critical enterprises, worldwide. http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ --=-qd9QIY17Uis0gk7D6Eme Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGlxxILVETDFf2570RAgbmAJ0djtgYCNtpBFxPxoWQ0hTL9nt3oACfStPN uP2rj1ouDk3iOK78u9zYgGA= =AfYk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-qd9QIY17Uis0gk7D6Eme-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list