From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1I97lZ-0000rp-CT for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:08:09 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6CN76Q4005015; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:07:06 GMT Received: from mail.obsidian-studios.com (mail.obsidian-studios.com [72.17.152.163]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6CN553m002689 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:05:06 GMT Received: (qmail 9987 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2007 23:05:06 -0000 Received: from mail.obsidian-studios.com (HELO ?192.168.1.211?) (192.168.0.51) by mail.obsidian-studios.com with SMTP; 12 Jul 2007 23:05:06 -0000 Received: from 192.168.1.211 ([192.168.1.211] helo=[192.168.1.211]) by assp.obsidian-studios.com; 12 Jul 2007 19:05:06 -0400 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ML changes From: "William L. Thomson Jr." To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <73967b650707121331n1482e7d8k926d925d38ba98fb@mail.gmail.com> References: <46968E00.4070202@gentoo.org> <73967b650707121331n1482e7d8k926d925d38ba98fb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-8HZX5LHEdGeUh0iq6FUg" Organization: Gentoo Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:05:06 -0400 Message-Id: <1184281506.29731.21.camel@wlt.obsidian-studios.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.2 X-Archives-Salt: 5b51b99e-21df-4b99-819b-267545f59b7b X-Archives-Hash: e505445623110e1bf34e69ae466a2614 --=-8HZX5LHEdGeUh0iq6FUg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 22:31 +0200, Bryan =C3=98stergaard wrote: > > Consider this my last post ever to gentoo-dev ML if this really goes > through. Degrading non-dev contributers like myself to second-class > citizens is definitely not going to make me want to contribute > anything more. I think the idea is being taken the wrong way. Why would you think you were second class? I take it as internal stuff on -core. Gentoo developers working with each other on -dev. Everyone who wants to work on the Gentoo Project, devs and all can do it in -project. I don't see anything wrong with levels of separation like that. Other than it being different. It's not like all development takes place on the -dev ml. Nor will -dev be private, so the public can still follow. If they need to interact. There is still IRC, Bugzilla, -project, etc. We don't let just anyone have a voice on #gentoo-dev or etc. What would make the -dev ml any different? Which just like on IRC, voices could still be granted to some past devs. If that goes against policy, then that's just a downfall of no longer being a dev. But it might still be possible to have former devs subscribed and able to post to -dev. Either way very few in any position are allowed to retain all power, privileges and etc after leaving the position. What ever it is. That's not a elitist thing. That's just how things are. Doesn't make one better than another, one first class or another second class. --=20 William L. Thomson Jr. Gentoo/Java --=-8HZX5LHEdGeUh0iq6FUg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGlrOgPrChP8zZLyYRAsdnAJwIYghfh32sj4YBjpx9ZNrHc8zx7QCfSO0R zcJbffg7+tex/1Hl3LkeH2A= =ezET -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-8HZX5LHEdGeUh0iq6FUg-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list