From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1I7auy-0000AH-Rf for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 17:51:33 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l68HoVd1032732; Sun, 8 Jul 2007 17:50:31 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l68HmagJ030418 for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2007 17:48:37 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.138] (c-66-30-3-184.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [66.30.3.184]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90EF66546D for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2007 17:48:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Watch out for license changes to GPL-3. From: Seemant Kulleen To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20070708164657.4edd8378@localhost> References: <1183832495.20203.11.camel@SOLACE> <468FDCFE.1060404@gentoo.org> <4690C4B8.4000407@gentoo.org> <200707081350.27220.philantrop@gentoo.org> <1183899969.6634.1.camel@localhost> <20070708164657.4edd8378@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-AN1asGat7jK3U5aTUFzp" Organization: Gentoo Foundation Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 13:48:52 -0400 Message-Id: <1183916932.6634.6.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.2 X-Archives-Salt: f55d3b4f-8eeb-4a0a-963e-a328b7e77585 X-Archives-Hash: af7953db260694065f23950066691206 --=-AN1asGat7jK3U5aTUFzp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 16:46 +0200, Dominique Michel wrote: > I personally think at gpl-3 is better as gpl-2 because GPLv3 will block > tivoization. Tivoization means computers (called =E2=80=9Cappliances=E2= =80=9D) contain > GPL-covered software that you can't change, because the appliance shuts d= own if > it detects modified software. The usual motive for tivoization is that th= e > software has features the manufacturer thinks lots of people won't like. = The > manufacturers of these computers take advantage of the freedom that free > software provides, but they don't let you do likewise. see > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/rms-why-gplv3.html >=20 > If you want to migrate to GPL-3, the most important question to solve wil= l be: > is it possible to get an agreement to do that migration from every single > programmer involved in gentoo? Like Ciaran said, the foundation holds the copyright, so it can re-license if it needs/wants to. The tivoization clause is certainly one of those subjects that can rapidly spiral downwards on this list, because it is largely a religious issue. In Tivo's case, they made the software freely available, but locked down their hardware. So, software wise, they did not affect freedom; hardware wise, it's their design and specs, they're under no obligations. Either way, I'm not sure how Gentoo is affected by the tivoization clause. If you can really show some way that GPL3 provides a compelling case to move to it, then we can start talking about that. Thanks, Seemant --=-AN1asGat7jK3U5aTUFzp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGkSOEiUTIoXwgiI0RAnxVAJ0abnNvplFINJ6iYYVaoMV41YQVKQCfUK4o oH5g8C2B9cwQWTYoDKqRaRs= =DD2b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-AN1asGat7jK3U5aTUFzp-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list