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From: Seemant Kulleen <seemant@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Watch out for license changes to GPL-3.
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 13:48:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1183916932.6634.6.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070708164657.4edd8378@localhost>

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On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 16:46 +0200, Dominique Michel wrote:

> I personally think at gpl-3 is better as gpl-2 because GPLv3 will block
> tivoization. Tivoization means computers (called “appliances”) contain
> GPL-covered software that you can't change, because the appliance shuts down if
> it detects modified software. The usual motive for tivoization is that the
> software has features the manufacturer thinks lots of people won't like. The
> manufacturers of these computers take advantage of the freedom that free
> software provides, but they don't let you do likewise. see
> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/rms-why-gplv3.html
> 
> If you want to migrate to GPL-3, the most important question to solve will be:
> is it possible to get an agreement to do that migration from every single
> programmer involved in gentoo?

Like Ciaran said, the foundation holds the copyright, so it can
re-license if it needs/wants to.  The tivoization clause is certainly
one of those subjects that can rapidly spiral downwards on this list,
because it is largely a religious issue.  In Tivo's case, they made the
software freely available, but locked down their hardware.  So, software
wise, they did not affect freedom; hardware wise, it's their design and
specs, they're under no obligations.  Either way, I'm not sure how
Gentoo is affected by the tivoization clause.  If you can really show
some way that GPL3 provides a compelling case to move to it, then we can
start talking about that.

Thanks,

Seemant


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-08 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-07 18:21 [gentoo-dev] app-arch/cpio-2.9 is now GPLv3 David
2007-07-07 18:35 ` [gentoo-dev] Watch out for license changes to GPL-3 Petteri Räty
2007-07-07 21:26   ` David
2007-07-08 10:28   ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-08 11:04   ` [gentoo-dev] " Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2007-07-08 11:50     ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-07-08 13:06       ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-07-08 14:46         ` Dominique Michel
2007-07-08 14:51           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-08 18:15             ` Harald van Dijk
2007-07-08 18:52               ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-07-08 19:12                 ` Harald van Dijk
2007-07-08 19:43                   ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-07-08 20:17                     ` Harald van Dijk
2007-07-08 17:48           ` Seemant Kulleen [this message]
2007-07-08 18:15             ` Richard Freeman
2007-07-09  0:04               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2007-07-09  9:31                 ` Steve Long
2007-07-09 15:13                   ` Duncan
2007-07-09 16:27                   ` Jeroen Roovers
2007-07-09 16:43                     ` Petteri Räty
2007-07-09 19:37                 ` Dominique Michel
2007-07-10  9:30                   ` Duncan
     [not found]           ` <20070709163914.GB16617@kroah.com>
2007-07-09 19:07             ` [gentoo-dev] " Dominique Michel
2007-07-09 21:24               ` Greg KH
2007-07-10 17:10                 ` Dominique Michel
2007-07-10 18:11                   ` Greg KH
2007-07-10 20:37                     ` Kevin Lacquement
2007-07-10 20:49                       ` Greg KH
2007-07-12  9:18                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-12 18:24                           ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-12 18:31                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-12 19:00                               ` Mike Frysinger
2007-07-12 19:07                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-12 19:14                                   ` Seemant Kulleen
2007-07-12 19:27                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-12 19:48                                     ` Wulf C. Krueger
2007-07-12 20:02                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-12 19:58                                     ` Chris Gianelloni
2007-07-12 20:12                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-12 20:17                                         ` Petteri Räty
2007-07-12 20:46                                           ` Harald van Dijk
2007-07-13  2:56                                     ` Jeroen Roovers
2007-07-12 20:10                                   ` Mike Frysinger
2007-07-12 20:16                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-12 21:06                                       ` Mike Frysinger
2007-07-12 21:11                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2007-07-12 21:32                                           ` Mike Frysinger
2007-07-13  2:53                                           ` Jeroen Roovers
2007-07-13  3:26                                             ` Mike Frysinger
2007-07-13  3:55                                             ` Marius Mauch
2007-07-13  4:20                                               ` Jeroen Roovers
2007-07-13  5:16                                                 ` Mike Frysinger
2007-07-14  2:26                                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-12 22:33                             ` Steve Long
2007-07-12 18:43                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Greg KH
2007-07-12 22:56                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2007-07-12 23:49                               ` Greg KH

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