From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1I6Zjl-0006y3-3O for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2007 22:23:45 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l65MLrnx031607; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 22:21:53 GMT Received: from mail.twi-31o2.org (c-24-6-168-204.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.168.204]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l65MIZUQ026689 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 22:18:36 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.twi-31o2.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D21A2480E2 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 18:06:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at twi-31o2.org Received: from mail.twi-31o2.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gravity.twi-31o2.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ey1YkdCUFZfX for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 18:06:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.100.31] (dsl211-165-131.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [74.211.165.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.twi-31o2.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F6E248079 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 18:06:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08 From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20070702210648.TA739fd.tv@veller.net> References: <20070702205057.TA3f325.tv@veller.net> <20070702210648.TA739fd.tv@veller.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-dY3NvSOc2Vif3n1H4SFr" Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:17:36 -0700 Message-Id: <1183673856.8491.42.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 X-Archives-Salt: 71241189-d7b6-4734-8de3-a14e083a6181 X-Archives-Hash: 07ed50fe08975bce69f234f52b5e71a2 --=-dY3NvSOc2Vif3n1H4SFr Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 21:10 +0200, Torsten Veller wrote: > Chris Gianelloni wolf31o2 While I thank you for the nomination for next year's Gentoo Council, I have decided that I no longer wish to be associated with the Gentoo Council or any other form of "management" or "leadership" within Gentoo. It is simply too stressful being harassed constantly by our developer pool. I sincerely hope that whomever decides to run for Council this year takes into account that of the original elected Council, two have retired (both due to being tired of having the shit roll downhill to them) from Gentoo completely, and three of the remaining aren't running for re-election. Being a Council member is the worst job in Gentoo. Be sure you're ready to be treated like complete shit from your fellow developers all the while having your integrity questioned daily before accepting your nominations. I know that I wouldn't accept a position on the Gentoo Council even if it was a paying job. I've also come to realize that trying to give a single direction to something like Gentoo is an extremely foolish endeavor. The better solution is smaller projects and tasks that have defined goals and can actually be accomplished. Any kind of general direction for the entire distribution would either mean leaving out groups, or moving in a direction that conflicts with the goals of our current groups. Don't get me wrong, the Council is definitely needed. I just think their focus should be on attainable and measurable goals, not lofty dreamy-eyed goals with no real way to measure whether we're moving in the right direction. Rather than go into more and more what I think are major deficiencies in what the Council can and can not do due to the ever-changing developer pool, I think I'll just shut up now. If anyone wants to discuss with me any of this stuff, feel free to contact me. > Say YES or NO. How about a resounding NO, instead? --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation --=-dY3NvSOc2Vif3n1H4SFr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGjW4AkT4lNIS36YERApGMAKCy6HFlSzEY6ZGyYQXBITa6pwizXwCfa0pL FuJir5zhg9EUJODoidq/fF0= =V/xG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-dY3NvSOc2Vif3n1H4SFr-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list