From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HvfQT-000311-JE for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:14:46 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l55KD4xo002648; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 20:13:04 GMT Received: from benjamin-judas.de (85-31-186-184.blue.kundencontroller.de [85.31.186.184]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l55K9sbq030532 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 20:09:54 GMT Received: from [192.168.115.103] (p54AE4F81.dip.t-dialin.net [84.174.79.129]) by benjamin-judas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7EB2D56A2 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 23:20:32 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble From: Benjamin Judas To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 22:09:52 +0200 Message-Id: <1181074192.12669.16.camel@antares.hausnetz> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 3259a671-e3ac-42e1-80a1-3b2e01de9328 X-Archives-Hash: 6feb6e4bb68ca5e7bffc68a3db3b9567 This is problably going to start a flamewar, but I am sick of such (insert appropriate term for animal excrements here) on mailing lists, forums and even websites. It's okay to have dreams, they keep us working on the things we like. But trying to force your dreams to come true annoys other people. If a Gentoo-developer cannot advocate the heart of Gentoo - i.e. Portage - and keeps bitching about it, then he or she should probably consider retiring completely from Gentoo and/or fork Gentoo. In no case, he or she should be talking bullshit (oops, I wrote it) in official Gentoo-channels. This appears to users and other uninvolved people like a kindergarden. The reason for my mail is the following excerpt (Jun. 5th, time CEST) --8<------------ 21:36 <@spb> next step is making paludis the officially supported package manager on alpha 21:36 <@eroyf> yes 21:36 <@eroyf> like it is on mips 21:36 * eroyf giggles 21:36 <@eroyf> all the mips devs are using it anyways 21:37 <@spb> and of course the ultimate aim is to drop alpha keywords from portage -->8------------ Please people. It's good to have destinies, and everybody wants to build his own very personal monument. We had Zynot, we had GenUX, and now we have Paludis. Please stop acting as if the project of a small scottish griper brain was "The Standard(tm)" It is not and hopefully will never be (because then the bitching and whining will finally stop). I'm waiting for the stinky comments from the usual corners. Yours sincerly Beejay -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list