From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HvfeR-0006M7-Qp for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:29:12 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l55KR5PN020434; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 20:27:05 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l55KNb6G015502 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 20:23:37 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984466423D for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 20:23:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -1.232 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.232 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-1.232] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UNi3Hao4bnB1 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 20:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from benjamin-judas.de (85-31-186-184.blue.kundencontroller.de [85.31.186.184]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7376460E for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 20:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.115.103] (p54AE4F81.dip.t-dialin.net [84.174.79.129]) by benjamin-judas.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A165B2D56A1 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 23:08:29 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble From: Benjamin Judas To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 21:57:41 +0200 Message-Id: <1181073461.12669.15.camel@antares.hausnetz> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 6593ab56-163c-4c17-9706-727ba1b01c26 X-Archives-Hash: 2e8d037c1b8b8e34ff2d6d627b30d80a This is problably going to start a flamewar, but I am sick of such (insert appropriate term for animal excrements here) on mailing lists, forums and even websites. It's okay to have dreams, they keep us working on the things we like. But trying to force your dreams to come true annoys other people. If a Gentoo-developer cannot advocate the heart of Gentoo - i.e. Portage - and keeps bitching about it, then he or she should probably consider retiring completely from Gentoo and/or fork Gentoo. In no case, he or she should be talking bullshit (oops, I wrote it) in official Gentoo-channels. This appears to users and other uninvolved people like a kindergarden. The reason for my mail is the following excerpt (Jun. 5th, time CEST) --8<------------ 21:36 <@spb> next step is making paludis the officially supported package manager on alpha 21:36 <@eroyf> yes 21:36 <@eroyf> like it is on mips 21:36 * eroyf giggles 21:36 <@eroyf> all the mips devs are using it anyways 21:37 <@spb> and of course the ultimate aim is to drop alpha keywords from portage -->8------------ Please people. It's good to have destinies, and everybody wants to build his own very personal monument. We had Zynot, we had GenUX, and now we have Paludis. Please stop acting as if the project of a small scottish griper brain was "The Standard(tm)" It is not and hopefully will never be (because then the bitching and whining will finally stop). I'm waiting for the stinky comments from the usual corners. Yours sincerly Beejay -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list