From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HcSRo-0001GU-Gy for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:32:44 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l3DKVdBv023736; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:31:39 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l3DKQqTK015459 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:26:53 GMT Received: from [192.168.1.213] (unknown [74.92.132.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99722656BF for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:08:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April) From: Ferris McCormick To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <1176491864.6435.24.camel@ashe.anyarch.net> References: <20070401092940.1B4C26441E@smtp.gentoo.org> <200704131302.00976.vapier@gentoo.org> <20070413180740.5066d6a6@snowflake> <200704131342.34026.vapier@gentoo.org> <20070413191627.268ae249@snowflake> <1176491864.6435.24.camel@ashe.anyarch.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-IUUjykT1u+UUEVCka7O2" Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:07:54 +0000 Message-Id: <1176494874.12612.61.camel@liasis.inforead.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.2.1 X-Archives-Salt: e8af1163-6000-4ebf-964b-138d4f7b0e25 X-Archives-Hash: 74508a07fa5dd741f8217bae8d4131ae --=-IUUjykT1u+UUEVCka7O2 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 12:17 -0700, Daniel Ostrow wrote: > >=20 > > > > Er, no, I'm explaining why enforcing src_test for EAPI 1 will be > > > > helpful for an awful lot of Gentoo developers. > > >=20 > > > except that you back the tree into a corner that it cannot come out o= f > >=20 > > Huh? Not at all. If a package can't use its test suite, the ebuild can > > set RESTRICT=3Dtest. > >=20 > > > > Please refrain from that kind of comment. It doesn't help anyone. > > >=20 > > > the answer is the same: talk to the QA team to get the tree into a > > > state where having src_test enabled by default is feasible and then > > > the QA team can change the profile > >=20 > > That isn't going to happen any time soon. There are too many changes > > and the impact of turning it on is too high. A gradual migration via > > EAPI is much safer and much more useful. > >=20 > > > enforcing via spec is the wrong way to go here ... spec is for > > > defining how the ebuilds work, not for forcing policy down peoples > > > throats > >=20 > > And whether or not src_test is called is part of how ebuilds work. > > Policy is whether or not src_test is required to do something in all > > situations, or whether it can be RESTRICTed out as necessary. >=20 > >=20 > First off...wow...long time since I've been active...so if anyone wants > to discount my comments based on that alone feel free. I'm trying to get > back in the game and I think a few e-mails as participation might be > best...hopefully you'll actually see me online soon. >=20 > Now on to the real topic at hand. For src_test I see things this way. >=20 Welcome back to the real (Gentoo, that is) world. :) Good summary of the situation, I think (although I've snipped it since everyone's read it once.) --- snip --- > Just my 2 cents... >=20 > --Dan Regards, --=20 Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) Developer, Gentoo Linux (Devrel, Sparc) --=-IUUjykT1u+UUEVCka7O2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6-ecc01.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGH+MaQa6M3+I///cRAkdBAKCk6RMr7i4i5R20336AbDMcZMRuFwCbB6yG w5Q9EHauyzQQjQZxCseBPdM= =MXup -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-IUUjykT1u+UUEVCka7O2-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list