From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HbfMJ-0005p3-DF for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:07:48 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l3BG6MYV032255; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:06:22 GMT Received: from smtp02.atlngahp.sys.nuvox.net (smtp-out2.atlngahp.sys.nuvox.net [70.43.63.19]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l3BG4Lqo029935 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:04:21 GMT Received: from [10.3.23.140] (216.215.202.4.nw.nuvox.net [216.215.202.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp02.atlngahp.sys.nuvox.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l3BG4Kvn001184 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:04:20 -0400 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New metastructure proposal From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: References: <20070410193249.GD7991@ubik> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-WvPoF7HpmMrfjlGdML1e" Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:04:15 -0400 Message-Id: <1176307455.8755.78.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 X-Archives-Salt: 47381ac7-aa89-47ef-881a-4498002e143e X-Archives-Hash: c42ab8a215083bca06944b6dd00b4945 --=-WvPoF7HpmMrfjlGdML1e Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 00:11 +0100, Charlie Shepherd wrote: > > some want it to be bleeding-edge >=20 > I think you'd struggle to get Gentoo to stop being on the bleeding edge := ) I'm pretty sure we're more cutting edge and less bleeding edge these days. We've slowed down quite a bit simply due to sheer size of the tree and the added complexities involved with it. > > Obviously, arbitrarily > > choosing one of those directions would mean losing a lot of developers,= and > > this is something we can't afford to do. >=20 > We could of course move in several directions at once... Exactly. We don't have to have global goals. We just want *some* goals. Each of the major functional groups can define their own goals, and they would be Gentoo's goals. We just don't all have to work on the same thing. After all, how many companies only work on exactly one thing, putting all of their employees on the one task? I'd venture to guess that only the very small would do that. Most companies branch out into multiple directions at once. Gentoo fits in more with this style of thinking, since we cater to very different user groups with different projects within our ranks. > > The current devrel authority is reduced to only the core > > project >=20 > I don't think this is a good idea. Most projects are short on people > already, without having to have their members wasting time policing > themselves. This is exactly what I mean by all of the groups having to reinvent the wheel. We already have a recruitment staff. Why do we now need $x recruitment methodologies for $x projects? > Just because stuff isn't maintained doesn't mean that it's not being > used, and if it's not broken I fail to see why it should be removed. I've seen many times people say "well, this hasn't been touched since..." when a package has no bugs. Of *course* it hasn't been touched. It just works. I wouldn't be surprised if there were quite a few packages that fall into this category. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation --=-WvPoF7HpmMrfjlGdML1e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGHQb/kT4lNIS36YERAqtrAJ9/1rMk9+b0e9oZiBSFTx5D6OpvqgCgmEqm tbTp+J/+7knUBJC0rzE5yPg= =WRfK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-WvPoF7HpmMrfjlGdML1e-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list