From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HbSwD-0007PO-0a for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:52:01 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l3B2p5Ui031611; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:51:05 GMT Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l3B2n3fa029123 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:49:03 GMT Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Apr 2007 02:49:03 -0000 Received: from chello080108115144.1.11.univie.teleweb.at (EHLO [192.168.0.102]) [80.108.115.144] by mail.gmx.net (mp031) with SMTP; 11 Apr 2007 04:49:03 +0200 X-Authenticated: #28563408 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/utvg1Shju6k2uPjis9SmpRDX6qonfZTaMKOB+E4 z37EWekkTwodJn Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Why don't you just ... From: Matthias Langer To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200704111326.35139.csawtell@paradise.net.nz> References: <461C1628.7010703@gentoo.org> <200704111326.35139.csawtell@paradise.net.nz> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 04:49:05 +0200 Message-Id: <1176259745.9696.46.camel@sputnik886.lnet> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.2.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Archives-Salt: 16102eb7-cdb5-420c-a21a-a5c3edc990c4 X-Archives-Hash: 430ae93ada04d46e3144fc9ceb17b22d On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 13:26 +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote: > On Wednesday 11 April 2007 10:56:40 Benedikt Boehm wrote: > > ... don't care about an uber-vision or direction and just keep your > > friggin packages alive and working? > Indeed!! > > Doing an emerge --deep --update world last week b0rked updating about a > couple of dozen packages. Evenutally I realized that the problem was > gcc-4.1.2 had a supposedly executable file filled with zeros in its > file-set. Masking gcc-4.1.2 and reverting to the 4.1.1 series has nearly > got me going again.There is still one package which won't compile. > OK I'm running ~x86 so I suppose I shouldn't complain, but > This whole exercise, combined with the flame fests in here, has left me, a > Gentoo user for many years, since version 1.2, feeling very upset and > distinctly fiesty. Until the QA is a bit better I honestly feel I can't > wholeheartedly recommend Gentoo anymore. > Well, I don't know what your problem really is about; I'm running x86, and if something breaks on my system, it's mostly not because of broken packages, but because I should have been informed about possible issues that could have been caused by an upgrade, and how to avoid them. Often, ebuilds contain very important information that are brought to the user via elog, ewarn and friends. The problem with this approach is, that I won't read these messages if I'm doing a world update while I'm asleep. This is, why I think, that it should be one of Gentoos highest priorities to implement Glep 42 and make heavy use of it. Matthias -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list