From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HVyPL-0003C5-NI for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:15:24 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l2QNEIeu031368; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:14:18 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l2QNCPsY029150 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:12:25 GMT Received: from onyx.private.gni.com (wall.sjc2.gni.com [69.80.192.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035AD64B06 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed addition to the Social Contract From: Ned Ludd To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200703270022.08622.pauldv@gentoo.org> References: <1174788467.4883.29.camel@bruichladdich> <1174915159.8207.17.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> <4607E6B7.7020503@exceedtech.net> <200703270022.08622.pauldv@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Gentoo Linux Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:10:37 -0700 Message-Id: <1174950637.20959.21.camel@onyx.private.gni.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: e50a9fbb-25d5-4de1-a919-5b81dcda7626 X-Archives-Hash: e2ce2513684482bdbfac2eccd2b6d857 On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 00:22 +0200, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > On Monday 26 March 2007, Dale wrote: > > Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > > On Sun, 2007-03-25 at 22:46 +0100, Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: > > >> And how exactly does this help us in the event of say the OSL burning > > >> down or the GNi suffering flooding? :) > > > > > > Well, we're on the second floor of the data center which has a quite > > > large basement, which would likely absorb most of the water. About the > > > only feasible way for our stuff to get flooded is if the San Andreas > > > finally gets the "big one" and the west coast of the US falls into the > > > Pacific, in which case, we'll be worried about other issues, I'm sure. > > > > > > That being said, you're more than welcome to assist Infrastructure (and > > > the Foundation) in finding new hosting locations as well as the manpower > > > to bring new services up in those locations or moving existing services. > > > Doing moves like this is a bunch of work, and not something I feel we > > > should be "dumping" on the Infrastructure team. > > > > Can I assume this building has indoor plumbing? It can be on the top > > floor and still get flooded. I saw a house once that the hot water > > heater busted and water was about a foot deep and was coming out the walls. > > > > More than one way to "flood" a building. :/ > > Actually the situation is not that hypothetical. Some years ago the datacenter > of the University of Twente (The Netherlands) was set to fire by an angry > systems administrator. The building housed among other infrastructure vital > to the university also some machines of great importance to the debian > project. Due to a combined effort of suppliers, the university staff and the > fact that they had a new datacenter that happened to be about to open, most > things were up an running again in a few days. > The thing I'm worried about > most is insurrance. I trust that infra has backups of the important things > like our repositories. The hosting Gentoo gets from GNi is a world class service in some of the best data centers in the world. Everything important gets backed up nightly from one data center to another. As GNi/365 Main move into more data centers world wide chances are Gentoo will be moving into those additionally as well. -- Ned Ludd Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list