[gentoo-dev] Scheme herd team needs some love

[gentoo-dev] Scheme herd team needs some love

[Matthew Kennedy]

No one is working on the Scheme herd in Gentoo.  scheme@gentoo.org
includes only me, but I'm not doing anything with Scheme and don't
really care to either.

Several of our Scheme implementations in Portage are out of date,
(chicken, gambit, drscheme, bigloo and, dare I mention, guile).

There are new ebuilds languishing in bugzilla which have yet to be
added to Portage (scheme48, elk, tinyscheme.

There are several bugs for build failures and dependency problems.


If you have an interest in Scheme and the Gentoo project, I encourage
you to go through the new developer process and start maintaining
these Scheme ebuilds.


Matt

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Scheme herd team needs some love

[Donnie Berkholz]

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Matthew Kennedy wrote:
> No one is working on the Scheme herd in Gentoo.  scheme@gentoo.org
> includes only me, but I'm not doing anything with Scheme and don't
> really care to either.
> 
> Several of our Scheme implementations in Portage are out of date,
> (chicken, gambit, drscheme, bigloo and, dare I mention, guile).

I have some slight interest in bumping guile to the latest version,
because a package I maintain uses it. But that's as much as I'll get
into it.

Thanks,
Donnie


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Scheme herd team needs some love

[Patrick McLean]

Matthew Kennedy wrote:
> No one is working on the Scheme herd in Gentoo.  scheme@gentoo.org
> includes only me, but I'm not doing anything with Scheme and don't
> really care to either.
> 
> Several of our Scheme implementations in Portage are out of date,
> (chicken, gambit, drscheme, bigloo and, dare I mention, guile).
> 

drscheme is not unmaintained or out of date, I am maintaining it. It has 
only one open bug, which is an enhancement request for a feature that 
doesn't compile in the current version.

A quick search found a bug in one of it's deps that was assigned to 
scheme@g.o for some reason (the metadata.xml has the package assigned to 
no-herd).
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Scheme herd team needs some love

[j.romildo]

On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 11:33:15PM -0500, Matthew Kennedy wrote:

> If you have an interest in Scheme and the Gentoo project, I encourage
> you to go through the new developer process and start maintaining
> these Scheme ebuilds.

I am interested in Scheme and the Gentoo project, but I am not a
developer. As was posted on the latest GWN, maybe it would be a good
idea to enter the recruiting process so that I would become a developer
and help the scheme herd.

I am a professor at the Computer Science department of an university on
my country. As a professor I have interests on programming languages, in
particular, functional programming languages. Currently I am at the end
of a compiler construction course, and next I will start teaching an
Object Oriented Programming course to Computer Science undergraduates.

I hope I qualify to the "job".

José Romildo Malaquias

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Scheme herd team needs some love

[Duncan]

j.romildo@gmail.com posted 20061104094756.GC13388@malaquias.gwiceb1,
excerpted below, on  Sat, 04 Nov 2006 06:47:56 -0300:

> On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 11:33:15PM -0500, Matthew Kennedy wrote:
> 
>> If you have an interest in Scheme and the Gentoo project, I encourage
>> you to go through the new developer process and start maintaining
>> these Scheme ebuilds.
> 
> I am interested in Scheme and the Gentoo project, but I am not a
> developer. As was posted on the latest GWN, maybe it would be a good
> idea to enter the recruiting process so that I would become a developer
> and help the scheme herd.

Welcome! =8^)

If you haven't already done so, you'll want to check out Gentoo's
developer documentation.  Gentoo has a reputation in the community for
some pretty good documentation, and of course, that includes its developer
documentation.

Of immediate interest will be the developer handbook.  Among other things,
there's a section on becoming a developer that should familiarize you
with the steps involved and help get you started.  (To the GWN folks, it
would have been nice had this been in the GWN article, but anyway...)

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml

Of course, there's additional documentation that may be of interest as
well.  Here's a link to "The Big List" (TM) of Gentoo documentation.  Of
particular interest to you will likely be some of the guides under
Development Documentation, devrel and release policies and the like.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/list.xml

Finally, if you haven't read them in awhile, you may wish to review some of
the basics in the Working with Portage and Working with Gentoo sections of
the general Gentoo Handbook, here.  (Pick an arch, that's mostly for
install, so it doesn't matter much for the Working with... sections.) :

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2006.1/index.xml

Of course, you'll probably want to stay subscribed to this list and start
following the discussions, but the devs are rightly concerned about
letting just anybody have access to a tree tens of thousands of users
depend on, and the process of becoming a developer has been deliberately
designed to weed out the "two commits and you never see them again" types,
so it's just that, a process, that'll take a few months.

(Me?  I'm just a user, but I follow this list to keep a heads-up on
changes coming my way, and perhaps to voice my opinion on topics of
interest to me occasionally, when they surface.  I appreciate the fact
that such a list is open to users, and try not to abuse it.  If I can be
of help in instances such as this, so much the better. =8^)

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Scheme herd team needs some love

[Christian Faulhammer]

Tach j.romildo,                                  0x2B859DE3 (PGP-PK-ID)

> I am interested in Scheme and the Gentoo project, but I am not a
> developer. As was posted on the latest GWN, maybe it would be a good
> idea to enter the recruiting process so that I would become a developer
> and help the scheme herd.

 Yes.  You can start off by helping to work on bugs and find someone to  
commit it.  And you need a mentor (I cannot do it, just became a developer  
myself), maybe someone volunteers or you have to look for one.

V-Li

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Scheme herd team needs some love

[Duncan Coutts]

On Sat, 2006-11-04 at 06:47 -0300, j.romildo@gmail.com wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 11:33:15PM -0500, Matthew Kennedy wrote:
> 
> > If you have an interest in Scheme and the Gentoo project, I encourage
> > you to go through the new developer process and start maintaining
> > these Scheme ebuilds.
> 
> I am interested in Scheme and the Gentoo project, but I am not a
> developer. As was posted on the latest GWN, maybe it would be a good
> idea to enter the recruiting process so that I would become a developer
> and help the scheme herd.
> 
> I am a professor at the Computer Science department of an university on
> my country. As a professor I have interests on programming languages, in
> particular, functional programming languages.

Yay! :-)

We can always do with more people with an interest in functional
programming languages.

We have fairly strong Haskell and Caml teams but seem to be quite short
on people interested in the untyped lisp-like functional languages.

> Currently I am at the end of a compiler construction course, and next
> I will start teaching an Object Oriented Programming course to
> Computer Science undergraduates.

I also teach FP, compilers and OOP to undergraduates :-)

> I hope I qualify to the "job".

So you've clearly got great credentials. The process to qualify involves
learning a lot about how Gentoo works, including management, ebuilds,
portage, cvs and bug tracking.

As others have said, the best way to start is to look at fixing some
open bugs or contributing new ebuilds.

You'll want to take a look at the Gentoo developer handbook:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml

In particular here is the section on becoming a developer:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1&chap=2


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