From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GXKe6-0002Vt-K3 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:39:59 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k9AGd3Lu009776; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:39:03 GMT Received: from smtp03.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (smtp.nuvox.net [64.89.70.9]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9AGZuFG026200 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:35:57 GMT Received: from [10.3.23.152] (216.215.202.4.nw.nuvox.net [216.215.202.4]) by smtp03.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k9AGajEr011796 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:36:46 -0400 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Missing: Universal-CD - Gentoo discriminates shell and networkless users From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200610092330.40400.karimarie@mail.rit.edu> References: <1160056361.6289.17.camel@party.homenetwork> <200610090740.54261.karimarie@mail.rit.edu> <452AC309.70701@gentoo.org> <200610092330.40400.karimarie@mail.rit.edu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-P/+hGwgghqQ4uc4302jY" Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:35:57 -0400 Message-Id: <1160498157.10595.18.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.0 X-Archives-Salt: 1f368bff-0d07-49ec-b7f3-a81ff3184f5a X-Archives-Hash: a63dafbbb360da0e59bb5de9c60042f2 --=-P/+hGwgghqQ4uc4302jY Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 23:30 -0400, Kari Hazzard wrote: > The point is that if you build Gentoo to be developer-friendly rather tha= n=20 > user-friendly, Gentoo will be replaced by something else. ...and? You seem to think that Gentoo being "developer-friendly" would be a change in the current way we do things. > User-centric design is why Gentoo is/was different from everything else. = Take=20 > away choices that people want and you take the Gentoo philosophy out of=20 > Gentoo itself. I can tell you that in the three years that I've been a developer, not once have I done "user-centric" design. I have always done what I think is the best way to do something. I am not alone, I know. It's pretty simple. We design a system that *we* want to use. If others benefit from it, then great. Apparently, this works pretty well since we have thousands upon thousands of users. > On Monday 09 October 2006 5:45 pm, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > That's only true if you assume Gentoo developers are in this for the > > users and not for themselves and their own personal satisfaction. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation --=-P/+hGwgghqQ4uc4302jY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBFK8vtkT4lNIS36YERAr7PAJ9fUk9FM2viOdXS6iXR2cDNatVB4ACgpHHw bR52xV9GTSH0WocA04zF4CU= =nIdv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-P/+hGwgghqQ4uc4302jY-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list