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From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Missing: Universal-CD - Gentoo discriminates shell and networkless users
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:35:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1160498157.10595.18.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200610092330.40400.karimarie@mail.rit.edu>

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On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 23:30 -0400, Kari Hazzard wrote:
> The point is that if you build Gentoo to be developer-friendly rather than 
> user-friendly, Gentoo will be replaced by something else.

...and?  You seem to think that Gentoo being "developer-friendly" would
be a change in the current way we do things.

> User-centric design is why Gentoo is/was different from everything else. Take 
> away choices that people want and you take the Gentoo philosophy out of 
> Gentoo itself.

I can tell you that in the three years that I've been a developer, not
once have I done "user-centric" design.  I have always done what I think
is the best way to do something.  I am not alone, I know.  It's pretty
simple.  We design a system that *we* want to use.  If others benefit
from it, then great.

Apparently, this works pretty well since we have thousands upon
thousands of users.

> On Monday 09 October 2006 5:45 pm, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > That's only true if you assume Gentoo developers are in this for the
> > users and not for themselves and their own personal satisfaction.

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering Strategic Lead
Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams
Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee
Gentoo Foundation

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-10-10 16:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-05 13:52 [gentoo-dev] Missing: Universal-CD - Gentoo discriminates shell and networkless users Peter Weber
2006-10-05 14:27 ` Jakub Moc
2006-10-05 14:32   ` Peter Weber
2006-10-05 14:49     ` Jakub Moc
2006-10-05 14:59       ` Dan Meltzer
2006-10-05 15:16         ` Jakub Moc
2006-10-05 19:40           ` Caleb Cushing
2006-10-05 19:39       ` Simon Stelling
2006-10-05 20:32         ` Steev Klimaszewski
2006-10-06  7:39           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-10-06 14:06             ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-09  8:11               ` Dominique Michel
2006-10-09  8:38                 ` Simon Stelling
2006-10-09 12:47                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-09 18:42                     ` Peter Weber
2006-10-09 19:45                       ` Roy Bamford
2006-10-09 21:57                         ` Peter Weber
2006-10-10 10:13                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-10-10 10:19                             ` Roy Marples
2006-10-10 10:55                               ` Duncan
2006-10-10 10:23                             ` Jens Pranaitis
2006-10-10 10:52                             ` Wernfried Haas
2006-10-10 12:13                               ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-10-10 12:33                                 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-10-10 16:28                               ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-10 17:01                                 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-10-10 14:46                             ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-10-11 15:56                               ` Duncan
2006-10-11 16:18                                 ` Caleb Cushing
2006-10-11 19:13                                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-12 11:25                                     ` Caleb Cushing
2006-10-10 16:24                             ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-11 15:42                               ` Duncan
2006-10-10 20:16                             ` Christian Birchinger
2006-10-10  7:55                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Simon Stelling
2006-10-10 12:14                           ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-10-09 21:50                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-09 22:03                         ` Peter Weber
2006-10-12 18:06                 ` Peter Weber
2006-10-12 20:47                   ` Chris Gianelloni
     [not found]                     ` <1160688721.26585.13.camel@party.homenetwork>
2006-10-12 22:55                       ` Luca Barbato
2006-10-13  0:59                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-10-14 12:46                         ` Caleb Cushing
2006-10-14 15:09                           ` Preston Cody
2006-10-14 15:40                             ` Caleb Cushing
2006-10-14 17:17                               ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-10-14 21:00                                 ` Caleb Cushing
2006-10-06 19:33           ` [gentoo-dev] " Stelian Ionescu
2006-10-05 14:48 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-05 15:00   ` Peter Weber
2006-10-09 11:40   ` Kari Hazzard
2006-10-09 21:45     ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-10-10  3:30       ` Kari Hazzard
2006-10-10 14:28         ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-10-10 14:40           ` Kari Hazzard
2006-10-10 22:31             ` Jon Portnoy
2006-10-10 14:42           ` Stuart Herbert
2006-10-10 14:45         ` Grant Goodyear
2006-10-10 16:34         ` Paul Varner
2006-10-10 16:35         ` Chris Gianelloni [this message]
2006-10-09 21:58     ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-09 21:59     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-10-09 23:11       ` Caleb Cushing
2006-10-09 23:20         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-10-09 23:50           ` Caleb Cushing
2006-10-10 16:12             ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-09 22:30     ` Alec Warner
2006-10-10  3:45       ` Kari Hazzard
2006-10-12  0:02         ` Jason Stubbs
2006-10-12  0:20         ` Jason Stubbs
2006-10-10 10:43     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan

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