From: Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide
Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 10:24:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1160126645l.10360l.0l@spike> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1159972037.10543.28.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> (from wolf31o2@gentoo.org on Wed Oct 4 15:27:17 2006)
On 2006.10.04 15:27, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
[snip]
>
> I'll give you Release Engineering's "status reports" for September,
> October, and November:
>
> September: taking a well-deserved break
> October: taking a well-deserved break
> November: taking a well-deserved break
>
> How about other projects that rely on things like upstream's release
> cycle? What about projects that just maintain ebuilds?
>
> Here's the games team's "status reports" for every month:
>
> "Fixed more bugs, added more packages, cleaned up some ebuilds."
>
> Now, perhaps what everyone would like, instead, would be status
> reports
> *where necessary* from certain projects?
>
> In fact, the council has been discussing asking a few projects about
> the
> status on some of their tasks. The main reason for this is for
> communications purposes. Basically, we'd just get a "Hey, where are
> you
> at on $x?" response from the teams.
>
> I don't *want* to drown projects in bureaucracy and paperwork. I want
> them to *accomplish* things, instead.
>
> --
> Chris Gianelloni
> Release Engineering Strategic Lead
> Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams
> Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee
> Gentoo Foundation
>
Before you can have useful reports, you need a plan to report against.
Like a target date for 2007.0 and its contents. Such a plan depends on
other projects delivering the contents in accordance with their own
plans. Like real life, these plans will have external dependencies on
$UPSTREAM, that Gentoo has little or no control over.
With progress reports against plans and updated plans, everyone can see
whats happened, why some things haven't and what the fallback is, if
one is required.
The old saw, "If you don't have a plan, then plan to fail" remains true
for volunteer projects as well as funded ones.
The content and update rate of plans/reports can vary from project to
project and it need not be onerous. Reporting can even be by exception,
so to take your "well-deserved break" example, if it was in your plan,
no report would be needed.
Regards,
Roy Bamford
(NeddySeagoon)
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2006-10-04 11:00 [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide Thomas Cort
2006-10-04 11:21 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-04 13:46 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-10-05 0:24 ` Jason Wever
2006-10-04 11:26 ` Luca Barbato
2006-10-04 11:32 ` Christian Heim
2006-10-04 11:44 ` Simon Stelling
2006-10-04 12:15 ` Brandon Low
2006-10-04 13:09 ` Natanael Copa
2006-10-10 0:09 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2006-10-10 14:51 ` [gentoo-dev] " Kevin F. Quinn
2006-10-04 13:14 ` Thomas Cort
2006-10-04 13:28 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-04 14:36 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-04 22:53 ` Bryan Østergaard
2006-10-05 3:35 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-10-04 18:45 ` [gentoo-dev] " Wernfried Haas
2006-10-05 23:46 ` Roy Bamford
2006-10-04 12:45 ` Thomas Cort
2006-10-04 11:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-10-04 12:49 ` Thomas Cort
2006-10-04 11:35 ` Luca Longinotti
2006-10-04 13:10 ` Thomas Cort
2006-10-04 13:26 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-05 0:44 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-10-04 13:34 ` Simon Stelling
2006-10-04 15:10 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-04 15:17 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-04 13:44 ` Luca Longinotti
2006-10-05 1:32 ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. *lol* Jeroen Roovers
2006-10-05 0:00 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer
2006-10-05 14:42 ` Josh Saddler
2006-10-05 0:00 ` Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer
2006-10-04 14:27 ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-04 14:33 ` Josh Saddler
2006-10-04 17:50 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-10-04 19:21 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-10-04 21:25 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-04 21:43 ` Mike Pagano
2006-10-05 0:42 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-04 18:37 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-10-05 2:00 ` Mike Kelly
2006-10-05 13:24 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-05 8:40 ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide (Gentoo reports) Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-10-06 9:24 ` Roy Bamford [this message]
2006-10-06 23:26 ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-06 23:33 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-07 1:00 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-10-07 8:58 ` Roy Bamford
2006-10-07 15:59 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-04 12:19 ` Ioannis Aslanidis
2006-10-05 0:00 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer
2006-10-04 13:02 ` [gentoo-dev] " Kevin F. Quinn
2006-10-04 13:18 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-10-04 14:57 ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-10-04 13:21 ` Thomas Cort
2006-10-04 15:06 ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-10-04 15:39 ` Thomas Cort
2006-10-05 10:53 ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-10-04 17:52 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-10-04 14:18 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-04 14:38 ` Thomas Cort
2006-10-04 15:23 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-04 17:20 ` Caleb Tennis
2006-10-04 21:13 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-04 22:30 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-10-04 23:00 ` Duncan Coutts
2006-10-05 6:34 ` Natanael Copa
2006-10-05 6:52 ` Alin Nastac
2006-10-05 8:06 ` [gentoo-dev] Proxy maintainers (was: Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide) Natanael Copa
2006-10-05 8:18 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-05 8:33 ` Natanael Copa
2006-10-05 0:00 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Proxy maintainers Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer
2006-10-05 14:39 ` Natanael Copa
2006-10-05 0:00 ` Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer
2006-10-05 14:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-10-05 15:08 ` Natanael Copa
2006-10-05 0:00 ` Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer
2006-10-05 15:20 ` Steve Dibb
2006-10-05 15:29 ` Bryan Østergaard
2006-10-05 9:44 ` [gentoo-dev] " Alin Nastac
2006-10-08 1:19 ` [gentoo-dev] Proxy maintainers (was: Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide) Andrej Kacian
2006-10-05 12:22 ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide Duncan Coutts
2006-10-05 14:31 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-05 14:27 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-05 8:20 ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide (Proxy-dev) Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-10-04 14:23 ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide Josh Saddler
[not found] ` <4523BA19.30208@gentoo.org>
2006-10-04 14:03 ` Thomas Cort
2006-10-04 17:56 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-10-04 15:16 ` Kevin F. Quinn
[not found] ` <3b09e8e90610040844y400d744bpb3c4e4b41b56fdeb@mail.gmail.com>
2006-10-05 4:09 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-10-05 13:30 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-05 10:36 ` [gentoo-dev] " Kevin F. Quinn
2006-10-05 10:52 ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-10-05 11:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-10-05 11:50 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-05 12:04 ` Luca Barbato
2006-10-05 12:14 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-05 12:38 ` Luca Barbato
2006-10-05 12:41 ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-10-08 1:28 ` Kumba
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