From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GVTHf-0001m2-Lt for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 13:29:08 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k95DRc5v021145; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 13:27:38 GMT Received: from smtp05.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (smtp.nuvox.net [64.89.70.9]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k95DOHkm003412 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 13:24:17 GMT Received: from [10.3.23.152] (216.215.202.4.nw.nuvox.net [216.215.202.4]) by smtp05.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k95DQL6k017238 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 09:26:21 -0400 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20061004220016.4e0c194d@mk65-desktop.pioto.org> References: <20061004070014.843d851d.tcort@gentoo.org> <45239C82.2050502@gentoo.org> <1159972037.10543.28.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> <20061004220016.4e0c194d@mk65-desktop.pioto.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-qIgzYajHj4dO5QMCCJvB" Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 09:24:12 -0400 Message-Id: <1160054652.10489.4.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.0 X-Archives-Salt: 65c03dfe-eef6-4266-a882-65145bdb4920 X-Archives-Hash: 1d72d876884bd4d11724e9321eb9e311 --=-qIgzYajHj4dO5QMCCJvB Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 22:00 -0400, Mike Kelly wrote: > > I don't *want* to drown projects in bureaucracy and paperwork. I want > > them to *accomplish* things, instead. >=20 > Sending a brief "All's well with releng" email isn't exactly what I > would call "drowning in bureaucracy". Of course not, but that's where it starts. Forcing projects to really do anything on a regular set schedule that isn't internally set is bureaucracy and pointless. I don't *want* to have to spend my time thinking about which projects I'm supposed to be sending status reports on that haven't done anything. I'd *much* rather spend my time actually *developing* on the projects that *are* currently moving. This is my *entire* point. Forcing a project to send in worthless little "we're still here" messages doesn't do anything. Of *course* they're still there. They have a project page. They have members. They're doing commits. Rather than wasting time trying to get everybody out giving each other warm fuzzies, I'd prefer we focus on the areas where we truly need to improve communications. A couple good examples of projects/teams that affect everyone are infrastructure and the trustees. These are two good places for status reports. Things like the games team are not. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation --=-qIgzYajHj4dO5QMCCJvB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBFJQd8kT4lNIS36YERAlbNAJ9otjtabaZBa0yVa2pAGYHEAtpMfgCdHU2m uCMkX6ik+sil/UNgaw3GJTA= =qjnX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-qIgzYajHj4dO5QMCCJvB-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list