From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-17439-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@gentoo.org>) id 1GVOIF-0003hc-SD for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Oct 2006 08:09:24 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k9588VAR011064; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 08:08:31 GMT Received: from mail45.e.nsc.no (mail45.e.nsc.no [193.213.115.45]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k9586dJh010428 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 08:06:40 GMT Received: from mail.nor.wtbts.org ([213.234.126.131]) by mail45.nsc.no (8.13.8/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k9586do9015407 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 10:06:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.nor.wtbts.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71EAC3FA87 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 10:06:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.nor.wtbts.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01368-01 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 10:06:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from nc.nor.wtbts.org (unknown [192.168.65.211]) by mail.nor.wtbts.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248F13FA86 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 10:06:39 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proxy maintainers (was: Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide) From: Natanael Copa <natanael.copa@gmail.com> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <4524ABAE.2000407@gentoo.org> References: <20061004070014.843d851d.tcort@gentoo.org> <1159971525.10543.22.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> <3b09e8e90610040738p5c35c134v43e790f0ec7060f2@mail.gmail.com> <1159975428.10543.64.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> <52818.192.168.2.155.1159982406.squirrel@www.aei-tech.com> <1159996414.10543.78.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> <1160002846.4062.430.camel@localhost> <1160030087.809.50.camel@localhost> <4524ABAE.2000407@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 10:06:39 +0200 Message-Id: <1160035599.809.87.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at wtbts.no X-Archives-Salt: c82a9882-d4d4-4e5e-a49b-bfa7cd8d9bc9 X-Archives-Hash: 1a3dba183b6047e6992bce01c7c263db On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 09:52 +0300, Alin Nastac wrote: > Natanael Copa wrote: > > Nobody has ever showed interest and I'm not pushing my services on > > anyone. > > > Why exactly you don't want to become a Gentoo dev? Because of the byrocracy? Is it worth it to only maintain one single package? Because of gentoo devs always seems to fight? > The whole "proxy maintainer" thing is a bunch of crap. Thanks. Seems to work just fine in freebsd ports. > The Gentoo developer will still be > expected to be responsible of his/her commits, which means 2 maintainers > will spend (approximately) same amount of time testing it. The Gentoo developer would have the final reposability, so yes, he/she might need to test it. But if it doesn't work the Gentoo developer sends an email to the (proxy) maintainer: "It doesn't work. Please fix or I won't commit" or: "The code is too ugly. Please improve or I won't commit". The Gentoo dev can establish a relationship with the maintainer so after a while he/she knows the (proxy) maintainer is trustable and can commit after just a look. This in contrast to dealing with thousands unknown bug reporters. If the (proxy) maintainer doesn't answer, the gentoo dev can either fix it himself/herself or find an new maintainer - which I believe is easier than requiting a new dev, since it does not *feel* like as much responsability, even if it is. Its funny, I use gentoo much more that FreeBSD, I'm a freebsd port maintainer, but nothing for Gentoo (well, im an active bugreporter...) When I submit a fix/version bumb (I submit as "maintainer update") to freebsd ports, its normally committed within hours, even if its not a popular port. When I submit fixes for packages in Gentoo bugzilla it get stuck for months. They must have done something right. -- Natanael Copa -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list