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From: Natanael Copa <natanael.copa@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Proxy maintainers (was: Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide)
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 10:06:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1160035599.809.87.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4524ABAE.2000407@gentoo.org>

On Thu, 2006-10-05 at 09:52 +0300, Alin Nastac wrote:
> Natanael Copa wrote:
> > Nobody has ever showed interest and I'm not pushing my services on
> > anyone.
> >   
> Why exactly you don't want to become a Gentoo dev? 

Because of the byrocracy? Is it worth it to only maintain one single
package?

Because of gentoo devs always seems to fight?

> The whole "proxy maintainer" thing is a bunch of crap.

Thanks.

Seems to work just fine in freebsd ports.

> The Gentoo developer will still be
> expected to be responsible of his/her commits, which means 2 maintainers
> will spend (approximately) same amount of time testing it.

The Gentoo developer would have the final reposability, so yes, he/she
might need to test it. But if it doesn't work the Gentoo developer sends
an email to the (proxy) maintainer: "It doesn't work. Please fix or I
won't commit" or: "The code is too ugly. Please improve or I won't
commit".

The Gentoo dev can establish a relationship with the maintainer so after
a while he/she knows the (proxy) maintainer is trustable and can commit
after just a look. This in contrast to dealing with thousands unknown
bug reporters.

If the (proxy) maintainer doesn't answer, the gentoo dev can either fix
it himself/herself or find an new maintainer - which I believe is easier
than requiting a new dev, since it does not *feel* like as much
responsability, even if it is.

Its funny, I use gentoo much more that FreeBSD, I'm a freebsd port
maintainer, but nothing for Gentoo (well, im an active bugreporter...)

When I submit a fix/version bumb (I submit as "maintainer update") to
freebsd ports, its normally committed within hours, even if its not a
popular port. When I submit fixes for packages in Gentoo bugzilla it get
stuck for months. They must have done something right.

--
Natanael Copa

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-05  8:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-04 11:00 [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide Thomas Cort
2006-10-04 11:21 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-04 13:46   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-10-05  0:24     ` Jason Wever
2006-10-04 11:26 ` Luca Barbato
2006-10-04 11:32 ` Christian Heim
2006-10-04 11:44   ` Simon Stelling
2006-10-04 12:15     ` Brandon Low
2006-10-04 13:09       ` Natanael Copa
2006-10-10  0:09         ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2006-10-10 14:51         ` [gentoo-dev] " Kevin F. Quinn
2006-10-04 13:14       ` Thomas Cort
2006-10-04 13:28         ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-04 14:36       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-04 22:53         ` Bryan Østergaard
2006-10-05  3:35           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-10-04 18:45       ` [gentoo-dev] " Wernfried Haas
2006-10-05 23:46       ` Roy Bamford
2006-10-04 12:45   ` Thomas Cort
2006-10-04 11:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-10-04 12:49   ` Thomas Cort
2006-10-04 11:35 ` Luca Longinotti
2006-10-04 13:10   ` Thomas Cort
2006-10-04 13:26     ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-05  0:44       ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-10-04 13:34     ` Simon Stelling
2006-10-04 15:10       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-04 15:17         ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-04 13:44     ` Luca Longinotti
2006-10-05  1:32       ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. *lol* Jeroen Roovers
2006-10-05  0:00     ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer
2006-10-05 14:42       ` Josh Saddler
2006-10-05  0:00         ` Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer
2006-10-04 14:27   ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-04 14:33     ` Josh Saddler
2006-10-04 17:50     ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-10-04 19:21       ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-10-04 21:25         ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-04 21:43           ` Mike Pagano
2006-10-05  0:42             ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-04 18:37     ` Wernfried Haas
2006-10-05  2:00     ` Mike Kelly
2006-10-05 13:24       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-05  8:40     ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide (Gentoo reports) Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-10-06  9:24     ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide Roy Bamford
2006-10-06 23:26       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-06 23:33         ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-07  1:00           ` Stuart Herbert
2006-10-07  8:58         ` Roy Bamford
2006-10-07 15:59           ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-04 12:19 ` Ioannis Aslanidis
2006-10-05  0:00   ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer
2006-10-04 13:02 ` [gentoo-dev] " Kevin F. Quinn
2006-10-04 13:18   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-10-04 14:57     ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-10-04 13:21   ` Thomas Cort
2006-10-04 15:06     ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-10-04 15:39       ` Thomas Cort
2006-10-05 10:53         ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-10-04 17:52     ` Donnie Berkholz
     [not found] ` <4523BA19.30208@gentoo.org>
2006-10-04 14:03   ` Thomas Cort
2006-10-04 17:56     ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-10-04 15:16   ` Kevin F. Quinn
     [not found]     ` <3b09e8e90610040844y400d744bpb3c4e4b41b56fdeb@mail.gmail.com>
2006-10-05  4:09       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-10-05 13:30         ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-05 10:36       ` [gentoo-dev] " Kevin F. Quinn
2006-10-05 10:52       ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-10-05 11:48         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-10-05 11:50           ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-05 12:04             ` Luca Barbato
2006-10-05 12:14               ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-05 12:38                 ` Luca Barbato
2006-10-05 12:41           ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-10-04 14:18 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-04 14:38   ` Thomas Cort
2006-10-04 15:23     ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-04 17:20       ` Caleb Tennis
2006-10-04 21:13         ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-04 22:30           ` Stuart Herbert
2006-10-04 23:00           ` Duncan Coutts
2006-10-05  6:34             ` Natanael Copa
2006-10-05  6:52               ` Alin Nastac
2006-10-05  8:06                 ` Natanael Copa [this message]
2006-10-05  8:18                   ` [gentoo-dev] Proxy maintainers (was: Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide) Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-10-05  8:33                     ` Natanael Copa
2006-10-05  0:00                       ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Proxy maintainers Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer
2006-10-05 14:39                         ` Natanael Copa
2006-10-05  0:00                           ` Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer
2006-10-05 14:47                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-10-05 15:08                             ` Natanael Copa
2006-10-05  0:00                               ` Christian 'Opfer' Faulhammer
2006-10-05 15:20                               ` Steve Dibb
2006-10-05 15:29                               ` Bryan Østergaard
2006-10-05  9:44                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Alin Nastac
2006-10-08  1:19                   ` [gentoo-dev] Proxy maintainers (was: Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide) Andrej Kacian
2006-10-05 12:22                 ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide Duncan Coutts
2006-10-05 14:31                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-05 14:27               ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-10-05  8:20           ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide (Proxy-dev) Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-10-04 14:23 ` [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide Josh Saddler
2006-10-08  1:28 ` Kumba

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