From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GV8Uo-0002iY-Gw for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 04 Oct 2006 15:17:19 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k94FFdjk030437; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 15:15:39 GMT Received: from smtp03.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (smtp.nuvox.net [64.89.70.9]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k94FB24D018445 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 15:11:03 GMT Received: from [10.3.23.152] (216.215.202.4.nw.nuvox.net [216.215.202.4]) by smtp03.gnvlscdb.sys.nuvox.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k94FBk4n031905 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2006 11:11:47 -0400 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo World Domination. a 10 step guide From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <4523B87B.4080307@gentoo.org> References: <20061004070014.843d851d.tcort@gentoo.org> <45239C82.2050502@gentoo.org> <3b09e8e90610040610y11be9cd9md4e4077dced308a@mail.gmail.com> <4523B87B.4080307@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-5lyX7l1Qi6tH6w/3Knyt" Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 11:10:55 -0400 Message-Id: <1159974655.10543.57.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.0 X-Archives-Salt: ceee12f4-c964-4045-a504-11b3ebdedfeb X-Archives-Hash: 5f2f88f7c194bb6584b878ae389febc9 --=-5lyX7l1Qi6tH6w/3Knyt Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 15:34 +0200, Simon Stelling wrote: > > What happened to working together? Should we work together instead of > > competing against each other? >=20 > Sometimes you want to achieve the same goal by totally different means.=20 > Sometimes there are good reasons for a complete new start. It does not=20 > even mean you don't communicate anymore. Brian Harring, although working=20 > on pkgcore which basically competes portage, communicates a lot with the=20 > portage team and vice versa, in a very productive manner. Nevertheless,=20 > you won't find anybody on the portage or pkgcore team saying that it=20 > would have been better to incorporate the ideas of pkgcore into portage. Right. > Sometimes it's simply better to start all over again. I completely agree here. I do want to note, though, that Brian is working on pkgcore outside of Gentoo, much like how Paludis is being done. Now, at some point in the future, we might all decide that pkgcore (or paludis, or something else, entirely) would be a better official package manager than portage. So we switch. I think this model for "competing projects" works out quite well. At the same time, I dislike us having so much "competition" internally, as I think it helps to foster some of the conflict and ill will that many of us have towards each other. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee Gentoo Foundation --=-5lyX7l1Qi6tH6w/3Knyt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBFI87/kT4lNIS36YERAgsAAKDFcGKwli5Q+EI1QXHwyl7I7peVKACfRmYg pW6yhYhTRxI4ZXT+31DBTpo= =0KLp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-5lyX7l1Qi6tH6w/3Knyt-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list