On Sun, 2006-09-03 at 07:15 +0000, Wiktor Wandachowicz wrote: > But to be honest, stabilization of packages was not my point. ((BTW, stable > X.org, KDE or GNOME would IMO delay the release for a week, so users wouldn't > need to upgrade in such a short time frame - but that's what I think)) People seem to think that the Release Engineering team doesn't talk with the GNOME/X/KDE/kernel teams. We *know* when they're planning on going stable and we work with them. How do we know this? Was *ask* them. Here's a good example. We took our snapshot for 2006.1 *before* GNOME 2.14 went stable on *any* arches. However, we worked with both the arch teams *and* the GNOME team to mark it stable in our snapshot on architectures who wanted to participate. Why did we do this? to avoid this exact situation. I really wish people would take the time to either ask the Release Engineering team, or learn how we work before they go off making accusations against us. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead x86 Architecture Team Games - Developer Gentoo Linux