From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GJxUw-0007kC-8E for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2006 19:19:14 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with SMTP id k83JI31o000892; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:18:03 GMT Received: from mail.twi-31o2.org (66-191-187-123.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com [66.191.187.123]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k83JEPQl031044 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:14:25 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.twi-31o2.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6E22480FC for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:10:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.twi-31o2.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gravity.twi-31o2.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10515-04 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:10:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vertigo.twi-31o2.org (vertigo.twi-31o2.org [192.168.0.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.twi-31o2.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CE1248066 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2006 15:10:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1 From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <44F95E3E.9000708@gentoo.org> References: <44F95E3E.9000708@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-EZ6R20AEBIp4JLNFpuk/" Organization: Gentoo Linux Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:11:43 -0400 Message-Id: <1157310703.13936.6.camel@vertigo.twi-31o2.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at twi-31o2.org X-Archives-Salt: ee252c79-9e74-44e7-8e2e-dd45abed9fd0 X-Archives-Hash: 7666213288cdcfb30e56755c3baad90f --=-EZ6R20AEBIp4JLNFpuk/ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2006-09-02 at 12:34 +0200, Edgar Hucek wrote: > Apeal on extended testing : >=20 > Developer, please test things more carefull before you=20 > release it. I hear this (pardon my "French") BULLSHIT all the time from our developers. Look, people, I asked multiple times for assistance with testing. Guess what? Very few developers did any testing. We started a Release Tester program to try to improve testing. It helped somewhat, bust most of the release testers never bothered doing installations. Some of them were very helpful, but most didn't do much of anything. Release Engineering can not, and WILL not, be responsible for the state of all 10,000+ packages and all of their possible USE combinations. That is the individual ebuild maintainer job. Our job is to make sure that the *media* works with the *default* set of USE as we have laid out. If something other than what is provided by us does not work, it is *not* our fault, nor our responsibility. Remember that our releases are a snapshot of the state of the tree. If the tree is messed up, then it will be reflected in the tree. If you want better releases, quit trying to lay blame on other people and get off your ASS and HELP fix the problems. Seriously, if you want to see improved releases, then help out. Quit your bitching, as it doesn't accomplish *anything* to improve the releases. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead x86 Architecture Team Games - Developer Gentoo Linux --=-EZ6R20AEBIp4JLNFpuk/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBE+yjvkT4lNIS36YERAujVAJ0TlDeO6iDWxskU0TzjMO95udSPRwCeP1Qj 6P2//8WWyUHbKn8mlz8J9Ok= =vOeS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-EZ6R20AEBIp4JLNFpuk/-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list