Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

[Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@gentoo.org>]

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On Sat, 2006-09-02 at 12:34 +0200, Edgar Hucek wrote:
> Apeal on extended testing :
> 
> Developer, please test things more carefull before you 
> release it.

I hear this (pardon my "French") BULLSHIT all the time from our
developers.  Look, people, I asked multiple times for assistance with
testing.  Guess what?  Very few developers did any testing.  We started
a Release Tester program to try to improve testing.  It helped somewhat,
bust most of the release testers never bothered doing installations.
Some of them were very helpful, but most didn't do much of anything.

Release Engineering can not, and WILL not, be responsible for the state
of all 10,000+ packages and all of their possible USE combinations.
That is the individual ebuild maintainer job.  Our job is to make sure
that the *media* works with the *default* set of USE as we have laid
out.  If something other than what is provided by us does not work, it
is *not* our fault, nor our responsibility.

Remember that our releases are a snapshot of the state of the tree.  If
the tree is messed up, then it will be reflected in the tree.  If you
want better releases, quit trying to lay blame on other people and get
off your ASS and HELP fix the problems.  Seriously, if you want to see
improved releases, then help out.  Quit your bitching, as it doesn't
accomplish *anything* to improve the releases.

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
x86 Architecture Team
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux

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