On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 22:36 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > As Weeve said, he's still trying to get people to stop breaking SPARC > keywords, just like 3 years ago. It's just when trying to do anything > larger than a single project that you run into issues. As an aside, this has long been the fundamental structural problem in the open source movement. Within a given project, things generally find a way to get done, but when a problem lies between two projects (be they peers, one dependant on the other, whatever) then things often remain unresolved. Examples: * Desktop integration between GNOME and KDE and graphics performance & capability improvement; freedesktop.org was the result of efforts to try and bridge / fill in these gaps. * Apache and PHP arguing over who was to blame for a certain incompatibility over Apache2 causing crashes. httpd people said it was PHP's fault; PHP said it was Apache's problem. And this a case where Rasmus is a lead committer on both projects! This is actually the cutting edge area in the free software movement at the moment - trying to find a common ground for not just projects but constellations of projects and above them distros to collaborate. [This is what Mark Shuttleworth claims as his focus and it is the titular role of launchpad to facilitate along these lines; remains to be seen whether any other distros or large projects will actually start using it. Viz also the mad activity in third-generation distributed-version-control-system land] AfC Sydney -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Managing Director Operational Dynamics Consulting Pty Ltd http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ Management Consultants specializing in strategy, organizational architecture, procedures to survive change, and performance hardening for the people and systems behind the mission critical enterprise. Worldwide: Sydney +61 2 9977 6866 New York +1 646 472 5054 Toronto +1 416 848 6072 London +44 207 1019201